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Old 02-02-2008, 09:39 AM
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Newbie with ASM Horseheads

You guys are awesome! With your help and info on this forum, I realized that there were other options beyond Paulson and Chipco ceramic for a professional feeling poker set... just got my ASM Horseheads in last week. I LOVE THEM... I think I spent too much for the 500 chip set without inlays (280 shipped) but am not sure... the other non-inlay designs on pokerchips.com seem relatively cheap.

These pics are straight from the ebay auction... I will put some more up now that they are oiled and BEAUTIFUL.

oh... does anyone know why some of the ASMs can be hotstamped and some cannot?
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Re: Newbie with ASM Horseheads

Very nice.
These are/were a CTers chips, correct?
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Re: Newbie with ASM Horseheads

The price seems reasonable. Not much less than they would cost you new from pokerchips.com, but a bit less.

Don't worry about the price. Enjoy the chips.

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Re: Newbie with ASM Horseheads

Welcome and congrats on your new ASMs. Very, very nice and as was said, don't worry about the price. I hope you win lots of big pots with them.
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Re: Newbie with ASM Horseheads

Actually the reason most ASMs can't be hotstamped is because there is no recessed center area to accommodate the hotstamp. Even though most hotstamps are flat or slightly indented. Sometimes what happens is the pressure of the hotstamp causes excess clay to stick up around the hotstamped area and this causes the stacking issues. With a properly recessed center this is not a problem at all. Some chips like T-molds or ASM Hourglass chips have enough of a recess to allow for this excess. Hope that made sense. I still haven't run across any chips that are perfect for hotstamping, yet. Maybe someday one of the manufacturers will sell BLANKS on a mold designed to be HOTSTAMPED. I had pretty good success however stamping the Horse Head Mold chips like you have. See this thread for a few examples. But, because you oiled the chips already that also might cause stamping problems.

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Re: Newbie with ASM Horseheads

Thanks all, and thanks for the info suckoutking... that makes a lot of sense. I just couldn't figure out how the a mold and others were made of different material that would be more receptive to hotstamping. Got it now.

I am curious also if I bought these chips from a CTer. If so, say hey because you are one of the fastest shippers on ebay. Not to mention, there were NO spinners or serious defects in the entire lot of 500. Thanks!

--- The funny thing about playing with the chips for the first time was that the 7 of us at our weekly $10 nl cash game all seemed to play a little looser... you know, as if we just wanted to get more action out of these sweet chips. Errr... maybe it was just me. I lost $30.
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Re: Newbie with ASM Horseheads

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Thanks all, and thanks for the info suckoutking... that makes a lot of sense. I just couldn't figure out how the a mold and others were made of different material that would be more receptive to hotstamping. Got it now.

I am curious also if I bought these chips from a ChipTalker. If so, say hey because you are one of the fastest shippers on ebay. Not to mention, there were NO spinners or serious defects in the entire lot of 500. Thanks!

--- The funny thing about playing with the chips for the first time was that the 7 of us at our weekly $10 nl cash game all seemed to play a little looser... you know, as if we just wanted to get more action out of these sweet chips. Errr... maybe it was just me. I lost $30.
Hello. Yep, these chips were mine. I'm glad that you're enjoying them and are happy with their condition. I almost decided to keep them after they didn't sell here on Chip-talk. You did save a few bucks, buying direct you would've paid .60 X 500=$300/+shipping. I'm in the process of oiling my Horsehead set and it sure does help. Anyway, enjoy the chips and welcome to chiptalk.
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Re: Newbie with ASM Horseheads

You also saved yourself the agony of having to wait for ASM chips. That process can take a long period. But in the end is worth it.
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Re: Newbie with ASM Horseheads

I don't think this is correct. Since the recess on Horseheads is deep enough to accept aftermarket labels, its certainly deep enough to accomodate a hotstamp. In fact, the T=Mold has LESS of a recess than the Horseheads do, they will NOT accept the same vinyl labels that Horseheads will without the labels rubbing against each other when stacked. This does not happen with Horseheads. And they could simply scrape off the excess clay if it did stick up enough, that's what TRK did and what BCC does.

The reason they don't offer hotstamps of all of their molds is due to the size of the inlay area. ASM's hotstamp dies are bigger than the inlay area on most of their molds except the A-Mold and maybe the Hourglass.

The inlay recess on T-Molds was actually made intentionally too shallow to accept labels.

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Actually the reason most ASMs can't be hotstamped is because there is no recessed center area to accommodate the hotstamp. Even though most hotstamps are flat or slightly indented. Sometimes what happens is the pressure of the hotstamp causes excess clay to stick up around the hotstamped area and this causes the stacking issues. With a properly recessed center this is not a problem at all. Some chips like T-molds or ASM Hourglass chips have enough of a recess to allow for this excess. Hope that made sense. I still haven't run across any chips that are perfect for hotstamping, yet. Maybe someday one of the manufacturers will sell BLANKS on a mold designed to be HOTSTAMPED. I had pretty good success however stamping the Horse Head Mold chips like you have. See this thread for a few examples. But, because you oiled the chips already that also might cause stamping problems.

http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/poker-...s-sweet-4.html
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Re: Newbie with ASM Horseheads

JM,
If you read carefully I said I had good success stamping the Horse Heads.
I guess I should have said that the Roman mold and H mold chips are the ones I tried and felt like there was no Recess. Have yet to try the A-Mold.
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