[NanaBanana]

Hello Chiptalk!

I would like to thank you all for kindly viewing my paintings, and offering your comments. If I may - I would like to give you all a little background. I have been painting for almost five years now and I love to paint. I continue to learn new painting techniques, and hope that I am also improving more and more with each brush stroke. Many of the paintings that I've shown here are copies of photos, pictures in magazines, newspapers, puzzles - any and everything that I find interesting. I have also painted some originals - from photos, from displays that I've set up etc., which is one reason that I am always taking photos - everywhere I go. Most of my paintings - I have given away as gifts, or to people who have admired one, and wanted one just like it. I have begun to do commissions for several people who have requested certain paintings. I don't sell copies, mainly because I am not clear on copyright infringement. I know that you cannot sell a copy of a Thomas Kinkade painting, for example. (If anyone here has clear information in regard to what constitutes a copy, or other pertinent information on this subject - I would love to hear from you). For that reason - I am certainly willing to make trades, if you should happen to see anything that you like, and have poker related items of equal value.

Feel free to PM or email me with any concerns or questions that you may have, or if you would like to see more photos of a particular painting shown here. You may also post in this forum, or check in to see new paintings as they are added to the gallery. Thanks again!

[rimmerryan]

Nana-

Hope some of this information is helpful for you...

excerpted from the "Artist's Guild to Ethical Guidelines" which I used as a textbook for a class one semester when I was in school:

copyright = The right to copy or authorize the copying of creative work. Any freelance artist creating artwork automatically owns the right of that work unless provisions have been made prior to the commencement of the project to transfer the copyright to the buyer.

"Although current copyright law automatically protects original artwork from the moment of its creation even without inscribing a copyright notice..."

Basically, anything that has already been done before is copyrighted, whether it is marked, or inscribed, or not. The original artist or the copyright holder has the ability or the option to do with that piece whatever they choose... keep it, display it, sell it, make prints of it, etc.

To copyright your own work:

"The elements that make up a copyright notice are 3 parts:
1. The "©" or Copyright, actually written out.
2. The artist's name, an abbreviation of the name, or an alternate designation by which the artist is known.
3. The year of publication, or creation."

In your case a great example would be: © NanaBanana 2007

It can be placed on the front, back, or adjacent to if printed or displayed.

So to sum it all up... you own the copyrights to anything that you create originally, whether from photograph you took, or your creative mind !!!
Anything copied, or created from another piece that was done previously is okay, as long as it is not used for personal gain, i.e. sold. You can paint them and give them away, no problem. Also, without making it clear to anyone that you are giving the paintings to, or selling them to about the copyrights of your original artwork... there is the chance that someone may end up using that piece as if they do hold the copyrights to, i.e. they might make ltd. ed. prints of the painting and sell them off. It is just up to you to decide whether or not you want to keep the copyrights of your original work, if so, you need to make sure that the buyer/receiver understands that... if necessary, use a document to protect yourself. I saw a few people get hurt by this exact same stuff with designs while in school.

If you need anything or more info... let me know.


R.

Originally Posted by NanaBanana

Hello Chiptalk!

I would like to thank you all for kindly viewing my paintings, and offering your comments. If I may - I would like to give you all a little background. I have been painting for almost five years now and I love to paint. I continue to learn new painting techniques, and hope that I am also improving more and more with each brush stroke. Many of the paintings that I've shown here are copies of photos, pictures in magazines, newspapers, puzzles - any and everything that I find interesting. I have also painted some originals - from photos, from displays that I've set up etc., which is one reason that I am always taking photos - everywhere I go. Most of my paintings - I have given away as gifts, or to people who have admired one, and wanted one just like it. I have begun to do commissions for several people who have requested certain paintings. I don't sell copies, mainly because I am not clear on copyright infringement. I know that you cannot sell a copy of a Thomas Kinkade painting, for example. (If anyone here has clear information in regard to what constitutes a copy, or other pertinent information on this subject - I would love to hear from you). For that reason - I am certainly willing to make trades, if you should happen to see anything that you like, and have poker related items of equal value.

Feel free to PM or email me with any concerns or questions that you may have, or if you would like to see more photos of a particular painting shown here. You may also post in this forum, or check in to see new paintings as they are added to the gallery. Thanks again!

[NanaBanana]

Thanks Ryan! You have been very helpful with lots of info.....

[TenPercenter]

Ryan does it mean she can or cannot trade for paintings that were a copy of some photograph or other painting/print? (not sell)

[shanghai_sparky]

Enough chatter, lets see some artwork!!!

[ACE'S FULL]

Nana, I have to say I am looking forward to seeing your work. I have seen the prizes from SCS and I must say they are wonderful. You have an amazing talent and I cant wait to see all the great stuff you turn out here.

[NanaBanana]

Originally Posted by ACE'S FULL

Nana, I have to say I am looking forward to seeing your work. I have seen the prizes from SCS and I must say they are wonderful. You have an amazing talent and I cant wait to see all the great stuff you turn out here.

Thank you very much. ACE'S FULL!

And shanghai_sparky - hop over to this link for the gallery pics:

http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/nanaba...vious-art.html

[shanghai_sparky]

Originally Posted by NanaBanana

Thank you very much. ACE'S FULL!

And shanghai_sparky - hop over to this link for the gallery pics:

http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/nanaba...vious-art.html

Thanks Nana, very good work.

[Josh7975]

Hi Nana,
I am pretty new to the forum and just found your gallery. I really enjoyed the pictures, and I am especially fond of the paintings with the Ace Spades and Clubs.

I'm curious about the copyright issues as they have come up a few times regarding chips. I have spent way too much time in art schools over the past years, but oddly enough the issue has never really come up.

However, from what I have seen, I don't think that there would be a problem even selling paintings based on another artist's paintings or photographs. For example, David Salle has done very well selling paintings made from magazine photos, and he is just one of many successful painters who has appropriated copyrighted images for his work. Andy Warhol is probably the most obvious example-- as far as I know, the manufacturers of Brillo never went after him when he copied their packaging during the 60s. (edit: Of course this is because Warhol sold his Brillo boxes as "art," and not as a household cleaning product.)

Regarding making copies of other paintings: this has been an accepted art practice for centuries, and I believe that copies can be freely sold-- so long as they are not represented as originals. In my own experience, I and others have sold drawings made from works in museums-- often museum visitors will approach students who are making sketches in the hopes of buying a unique souvenir! Problems arise when you sell an image under the pretense that it is an original, and in this case I believe that the legal issues have to do with fraud, and not copyright infringement. I think that Eric Hebborn's terrific book, "The Art Forger's Handbook," may talk about this.

I am pretty sure that the act of copying a painting or photograph is analogous to taking a photograph of the statue of liberty. One can do whatever one wishes with prints of that photograph, and one doesn't have to pay a penny to the city of New York or the Port Authority. But if one claims that the photograph was taken by Robert Mapplethorpe, or if one glues a copy to a green chip and claims that it is a PNY, then the issue of fraud comes up.

Of course I may be completely off on all of the above.

Congratulations on your terrific work!
-Josh

[NanaBanana]

Originally Posted by Josh7975

Hi Nana,
I am pretty new to the forum and just found your gallery. I really enjoyed the pictures, and I am especially fond of the paintings with the Ace Spades and Clubs.

I'm curious about the copyright issues as they have come up a few times regarding chips. I have spent way too much time in art schools over the past years, but oddly enough the issue has never really come up.

However, from what I have seen, I don't think that there would be a problem even selling paintings based on another artist's paintings or photographs. For example, David Salle has done very well selling paintings made from magazine photos, and he is just one of many successful painters who has appropriated copyrighted images for his work. Andy Warhol is probably the most obvious example-- as far as I know, the manufacturers of Brillo never went after him when he copied their packaging during the 60s. (edit: Of course this is because Warhol sold his Brillo boxes as "art," and not as a household cleaning product.)

Regarding making copies of other paintings: this has been an accepted art practice for centuries, and I believe that copies can be freely sold-- so long as they are not represented as originals. In my own experience, I and others have sold drawings made from works in museums-- often museum visitors will approach students who are making sketches in the hopes of buying a unique souvenir! Problems arise when you sell an image under the pretense that it is an original, and in this case I believe that the legal issues have to do with fraud, and not copyright infringement. I think that Eric Hebborn's terrific book, "The Art Forger's Handbook," may talk about this.

I am pretty sure that the act of copying a painting or photograph is analogous to taking a photograph of the statue of liberty. One can do whatever one wishes with prints of that photograph, and one doesn't have to pay a penny to the city of New York or the Port Authority. But if one claims that the photograph was taken by Robert Mapplethorpe, or if one glues a copy to a green chip and claims that it is a PNY, then the issue of fraud comes up.

Of course I may be completely off on all of the above.

Congratulations on your terrific work!
-Josh

Josh,

I am so glad to hear from you, and appreciate all of the info and your nice comments. You make some very good points, and I am inclined to agree with you on most of them. I have tons of pictures of poker "prints" such as the Ace of Spades and Clubs and I love painting those, but I would never be comfortable in trying to sell them as originals - only as copies. I'm working on some now that will be originals. I'll have to check out the book that you recommended. Thank you so much for writing - and welcome to Chiptalk!

Nana