[Matt]

I'm wondering if you would be interested in a new high-quality injection-molded chip that can be custom labled? The chips would look identical to the Bellagio chips but without inlays. Instead they would have a recessed center to allow 1.25 inch custom labels. The chips would weigh ~11 grams and have metal inserts but we're talking very high quality - similar if not higher quality than Bud Jones chips. I received the first samples a few weeks ago, and inlays with equal or higher quality than Bud Jones' can be produced and the molding is excellent - visually more precise than Bud Jones'.

I would need to sell 10.000 chips or so (initially) to make this happen. The price would likely be between $0.35 and $0.50 per chip including International shipping. More on this later. We can have atleast 10 color combinations for this first mold design. More mold designs will be added in the future.

Here's, roughly, how the chips would look --->




Let me know your thoughts!


Matt

[palmimports]

Originally Posted by Matt

I'm wondering if you would be interested in a new high-quality injection-molded chip that can be custom labled? The chips would look identical to the Bellagio chips but without inlays. Instead they would have a recessed center to allow 1.25 inch custom labels. The chips would weigh ~11 grams and have metal inserts but we're talking very high quality - similar if not higher quality than Bud Jones chips. I received the first samples a few weeks ago, and inlays with equal or higher quality than Bud Jones' can be produced and the molding is excellent - visually more precise than Bud Jones'.

I would need to sell 10.000 chips or so (initially) to make this happen. The price would likely be between $0.35 and $0.50 per chip including International shipping. More on this later. We can have atleast 10 color combinations for this first mold design. More mold designs will be added in the future.

Here's, roughly, how the chips would look --->




Let me know your thoughts!


Matt

Matt why not have these made in clay instead of plastic? Or- to be more precise- a calcium carbonate based clay chip-- I think they would sell better then being abs.

We have a solid clay 6 stripe weve been selling for years with great success- and the cost difference between the clay we make and the abs we still make is small- like .025 c difference-

I think IF you make these in clay it would be a better chip

[Matt]

Originally Posted by palmimports

Matt why not have these made in clay instead of plastic? Or- to be more precise- a calcium carbonate based clay chip-- I think they would sell better then being abs.

We have a solid clay 6 stripe weve been selling for years with great success- and the cost difference between the clay we make and the abs we still make is small- like .025 c difference-

I think IF you make these in clay it would be a better chip

I wouldn't mind having my own clay chips, that's for sure, but I think these are equally interesting. They would be practically identical to Bud Jones chips. They even smell the same! *lol*

Matt

[Dissolved]

they look sweet, but im not a fan of labels unless they are near copys of BJ style chips. If you could get these about .35 or so then they would sell like crazy.

I might have to hold off on the wsop chips to see where these are going.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Dissolved

they look sweet, but im not a fan of labels unless they are near copys of BJ style chips. If you could get these about .35 or so then they would sell like crazy.

I might have to hold off on the wsop chips to see where these are going.

These will probably take a few months. You should order the WSOP chips before the order deadline runs out February 1 and "worry" about these later


Matt

[burnvalley]

I would love to see this come about just to see the quality. Are we talking Matsui like at .35 a pop

[Dissolved]

Originally Posted by burnvalley

I would love to see this come about just to see the quality. Are we talking Matsui like at .35 a pop

thats what im talking about. I wanted to buy those matsui's but i just couldnt afford them. If these came out in various colors and styles i think they would be a major hit on on here depending on the quality compared to Matsui/BJ/RTP.

[99%evil]

Hmmm, interesting...has GPI seen these? They'd be great with a high quality vinyl label...

Question, I know you're a salesman, but, please tell us the flaws before someone else does. For instance, is there a visable seam at the chip edge anywhere? where is the injection dimple? Do the spots fill in completely or do some have gaps? Are we talking "clinky"? With an applied label do they have the "suction feel of a BJ"? (this is achieved by extreme tolerances).

[Matt]

Originally Posted by burnvalley

I would love to see this come about just to see the quality. Are we talking Matsui like at .35 a pop

I have honestly never handled Matsui chips. I think they are very hard and slippery? These have a ever so slightly rubbery feel to them. Just enough to make them stack well. I don't know the exact material they are made of but I believe it is very similar to that used in Bud Jones chips. They have a very similar smell. One of the experts I have been in contact with mentioned the word Santoprene. Apparently it's a material that comes in different grades of rubber feel and texture. I really have no idea if that might be it.

I think I have found the right manufacturer though. They seem to know what they are doing and they don't charge fantasy sums. Another company sent me this quote -->

-"Hello Matthias,

Thank you for the inquiry.

I have put together budgetary numbers for producing the molded chips you are describing. This is a very technical challenge which requires complex molds and leading edge manufacturing capabilities.

A) One production mold base and 14 cavity sets to produce all 7 style chips_________________________________________________$ 400,000.00

B) Necessary production equipment_________________________$ 315,000.00

C) Molded part pricing in lots of 10,000 pieces_________________$ 0.56 ea.

Please call if you have questions, need any additional information, or would like us to proceed further.

Thank You,

Xxxx Xxxxxxxx

Operations Manager / Owner"

*LOL*

That would be the end of me for sure

Matt

[Matt]

Originally Posted by 99%evil

Hmmm, interesting...has GPI seen these? They'd be great with a high quality vinyl label...

Question, I know you're a salesman, but, please tell us the flaws before someone else does. For instance, is there a visable seam at the chip edge anywhere? where is the injection dimple? Do the spots fill in completely or do some have gaps? Are we talking "clinky"? With an applied label do they have the "suction feel of a BJ"? (this is achieved by extreme tolerances).

There is no visable seam on the samples I've received and no injection dimple. On my Bud Jones samples, however, you can see on the spots and stripes on the rolling edge, not a real seam but that they are "split" in half and that the alignment is a bit off. The spots are completely filled in. I haven't tried them with labels yet. The samples I received have real casino-style inlays. My Bud Jones chips don't have that much of a suction but the surface is more even. So I suppose the BJ's should have more of a suction but these have a more rubbery feel to them instead. They are currently a bit on the clinky side, not too bad, but we will try to get the right sound by lowering the weight. I hope that answers your questions.


Matt