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08-05-2005, 08:40 PM
|  | Final Table | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NW Arkansas Age: 44
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Chips: 2,521 | | | Quick question about late players Typically, I will deal a late player in as well as post blinds in their absence, but I am not sure if I should actually be dealing them any cards or not. Anyone know? Thanks! | 
08-05-2005, 08:47 PM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 34
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Chips: 944 | | | If you are going to do it that way, deal them cards. We got sick of that and setup a time late/chip penalty matrix. If a player is late they take a chip hit based on how late they are, and those chips are distributed among the rest of the players. | 
08-05-2005, 08:50 PM
|  | I'm your density | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ohio
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Chips: 195 | | | We deal them cards and removed blinds as if they were there.
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08-05-2005, 08:52 PM
|  | World Series Final Table | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Santee, CA (San Diego) Age: 40
Posts: 2,598
Chips: 2,936 | | We post their blinds and (try to remember to, lol) deal and fold their hands until the end of the second round of blind levels. (30-40 minutes into the game.)
At that point, if the player does not arrive, we remove their chips from the table, and take them out of play.
No refunds are given.  | 
08-05-2005, 09:02 PM
|  | Poker Nerd (and Admin) | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bottom pair and a flush draw Age: 35
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Originally Posted by OnTheButton We post their blinds and (try to remember to, lol) deal and fold their hands until the end of the second round of blind levels. (30-40 minutes into the game.)
At that point, if the player does not arrive, we remove their chips from the table, and take them out of play.
No refunds are given.  | so they've already paid? in that case, i'll just blind 'em down forever. if they show up two hours late, and have 1/10th of a starting stack, so be it. but i don't take a guy's money and refuse him chips. | 
08-05-2005, 09:49 PM
|  | World Series Final Table | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Santee, CA (San Diego) Age: 40
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Originally Posted by jojobinks Quote: |
Originally Posted by OnTheButton We post their blinds and (try to remember to, lol) deal and fold their hands until the end of the second round of blind levels. (30-40 minutes into the game.)
At that point, if the player does not arrive, we remove their chips from the table, and take them out of play.
No refunds are given.  | so they've already paid? in that case, i'll just blind 'em down forever. if they show up two hours late, and have 1/10th of a starting stack, so be it. but i don't take a guy's money and refuse him chips. | They know when the game starts. They know when their chips are put on the table. IF they have already paid (we often do a "pay in advance" option to pick your seat at the table) then no refunds are given if you do not arrive by the beginning of the 3rd blind level.
It is a PITA to deal with an absent player.
However if they call us or let it be known to another player that is there on time, they are coming and they will be late, we will blind them until they arrive.
If we know nothing by almost an hour into the game, that's it. Casino rules are abided.
Harsh? Perhaps. Realistic? Yes.
This is ONLY for a pre-paid scenario, with a no-call, no-show player.
Gotta have rules, gotta let them be known, and gotta enforce them. Otherwise the masses will walk all over you. | 
08-05-2005, 10:24 PM
|  | Poker Nerd (and Admin) | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bottom pair and a flush draw Age: 35
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Originally Posted by OnTheButton Quote: |
Originally Posted by jojobinks Quote: |
Originally Posted by OnTheButton We post their blinds and (try to remember to, lol) deal and fold their hands until the end of the second round of blind levels. (30-40 minutes into the game.)
At that point, if the player does not arrive, we remove their chips from the table, and take them out of play.
No refunds are given.  | so they've already paid? in that case, i'll just blind 'em down forever. if they show up two hours late, and have 1/10th of a starting stack, so be it. but i don't take a guy's money and refuse him chips. | They know when the game starts. They know when their chips are put on the table. IF they have already paid (we often do a "pay in advance" option to pick your seat at the table) then no refunds are given if you do not arrive by the beginning of the 3rd blind level.
It is a PITA to deal with an absent player.
However if they call us or let it be known to another player that is there on time, they are coming and they will be late, we will blind them until they arrive.
If we know nothing by almost an hour into the game, that's it. Casino rules are abided.
Harsh? Perhaps. Realistic? Yes.
This is ONLY for a pre-paid scenario, with a no-call, no-show player.
Gotta have rules, gotta let them be known, and gotta enforce them. Otherwise the masses will walk all over you. | well, about that last part, it's a little to authoritarian for me. i don't think it's walking all over me to take the guys money and then blind him done to the felt. in fact, it seems perfectly fair. a tourny buyin provides a player a seat and chips. those chips are good until they're gone. some guys lose them in 3 hands. others, if they never play a hand, will have chips for a couple of hours. whether the player is present or not seems irrelevant.
and it's hardly a PITA, IMO, to put the guy's blind in twice per round. it's a bonus, as far as i can tell, to have dead money in the pot.
of course house rules are house rules, and we do things our own way. i'd certainly play at a tourny with your rules, b/c i don't make it a habit to be late. just a hypothetical debate...  | 
08-06-2005, 12:30 AM
|  | World Series Champ | | Join Date: Apr 2005
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Chips: 111 | | | House rules are rules but I like it where the player is just blinded out. | 
08-06-2005, 10:44 AM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chicagoland Age: 33
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Chips: 1,845 | | | Technically you're supposed to deal the absent player cards and then just fold. However, if I know someone isn't showing for awhile, we just save time and skip dealing them in until we know they're closer.
I have the same problem in my game and finally got tired of my 1:00 games not starting until 1:30 or worse. Here's what I did. I do all my tournies through evite. If they RSVP yes, they are guaranteed a seat. Most of my guys are good about calling if they're running late, especially the ones that bother to RSVP, so I just blind them out until they get here. The problem I have is with the guys that don't like to RSVP adn just show up. If they're on time and I have room, I let them play. If they're late though, I charge them an extra fee to the pot, they get sat in the next big blind and they have chips removed roughly equal to the number of blinds they've missed.
The big pain in the ass is getting everything set up and then having these jokers, who of course have never hosted a game themselves, think they can just show up, get some chips, and grab a chair. It's a big disruption and I've tried to make it as painful as possible to discourage it. | 
08-06-2005, 12:08 PM
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