[jldecarlo]

Did we ever come up with a concise set of rules. We frequently have novice players, so it would be nice to have a short list I could give them.

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[99%evil]

Here's one I ran into last night, if you muck your cards, no digging them out when you realized that it's a split pot. I had AQ and the board was A-K-8-8-7 rainbow, the other guy (my own f-ing brother) mucked his cards when he saw mine, only to dig them back out when he realized the K bailed him out, he had A$. Read my other threads about this night and you'll realize why I didn't bother arguing the point. Just try and pick your cards out of the muck in a Vegas casino and see what happens.

[dad604]

That is a very standard rule, when you muck, your cards are dead. Even accidentally, it is dead.

[99%evil]

You and I know the rule, but as Ten stated, he wanted to create a condensed guide to settle disputes at home games. Having this in big bold letters would help against a loudmouth that starts an argument because he thinks he should split the pot even though he's a moron for throwing his cards in the muck before he actually looks at the board.

This is something I've come up against on numerous occassions, there's always one guy who thinks he's a know it all, but doesn't know mucked cards are dead when they hit the pile.

[OnTheButton]

Although not mostly original, this is the rules list we use at our games.

It is a compliation of many different rule sets found on the internet, I removed some, added some and adapted others to fit our needs best.

We keep it posted on a large 24" x 36" poster board on an easel visible to all players.

Adapt and modify if you like

HOUSE RULES

• No smoking. No spitting. No farting upwind.

• Foul language is permitted within reason, so long as it is not directed at any specific person or player.

• The house has the authority to close any game at any time.

• The house has the authority to remove any player, at any time, for any period of time, for any violation of any rule listed here or otherwise.

• Only the english language may be spoken at the table.

• Only one player to a hand. Show one, show all. PERIOD.

• Splashing the pot is not permitted.

• If a card is exposed it must be shown to all players.

• Unless you suspect cheating, please do not ask to view a hand that has been called.

• No cheating! Remember, a Louisville Slugger beats five aces!

• Chopping (splitting) blinds is not permitted.

• Straddle bets are not permitted.

• Do not place anything on the table except your cards, your chips, and your drink, which must be in a holder.

• Be kind to the dealer and to other players.

• Check-raising is acceptable... and encouraged!

• The cards speak for themselves.

• Re-raises must be double the size of the previous raise.

• No suit is higher than another.

• Only the dealer may touch the pot.

• Hats and sunglasses are permitted.

• Headphones are allowed unless they prevent you from acting promptly on your turn.

• Verbally announce your betting action. No string raises please.

• Keep your cards and chips on the table and in plain view. Keep your large denomination chips out front or on top.

• Do not bend or mark the cards.

• Immediately inform the Tournament Director when a player has been eliminated.

• Verbal declarations of actions are binding.

• Do not act out of turn.

• Do not discuss folded cards while betting is still active.

• No fishing the muck!

[Johnny5]

Originally Posted by OnTheButton

• Re-raises must be double the size of the previous raise.

Do you play this way for all games/limits?

[JM]

I love the 'upwind' part, lol!

[OnTheButton]

Originally Posted by Johnny5

Do you play this way for all games/limits?

This has been standard, and not just for us, and it is for No-Limit betting, as I was taught.

Example: If I open for $100, and Mr A raises to $500, Mr B can't re-raise to $600, he instead must re-raise (if he wants) it to at LEAST $900.

Of course an "all in" would negate any limits.

That would be my original $100 bet, plus the $400 raise, the rule is then that the re-raise must be at least $800 - double the original RAISE. (plus the original bet of $100.)

I've never known it any other way, as it prevents, the"I bet $100." Next guy. "I raise to $500." Next guy, "I raise to $550" Next guy, "Well I raise to $600" And on and on...

[seymour]

I was thinking that a raise was to be equal to or greater than the previous raise. So if someone raises $400, your reraise has to be at least another $400, not $800 more. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you meant.

Still trying to get my friends to start doing this, sometimes they'll raise less, like an extra $100 on top of the original $400, or whatever. Only been playing for lower stakes while having a few beer, so I haven't really been stressing that point too much.

[OnTheButton]

Originally Posted by seymour

I was thinking that a raise was to be equal to or greater than the previous raise. So if someone raises $400, your reraise has to be at least another $400, not $800 more. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you meant.

Still trying to get my friends to start doing this, sometimes they'll raise less, like an extra $100 on top of the original $400, or whatever. Only been playing for lower stakes while having a few beer, so I haven't really been stressing that point too much.

We are thinking the same thing, just wording it differently.

A re-raise must be equal to or greater than the original raise, i.e. double the original raise amount. (raise= $400, re-raise = $800)

6 of one half a dozen of the other.

I don't know where I read, was told or adopted that schedule, but I know it was somewhere I could trust like in a casino, when it was my turn to re-raise, and I was stopped cold by just wanted to add a "little" to the raise, when in fact I was told, I must double the amount raised to me. (Note, this amount does not include the original BET, just the amount of the RAISE from that bet.)