Absent player being blinded off

Biceman · Tweet this Post! #1 08-09-2009, 01:03 PM

One of our regular players was playing in another league tournament last night that started at 7:00. Ours didn't start until 9, and I guess he was doing about average in the other one so he called and had us buy him into ours as well, in case he took a turn for the worse in the earlier one.

His stack was blinded off for a couple more hours, and he called later and said that he had just doubled up in the other tournament at the final table, and asked if he could have what was left of his stack put all-in blind for him, figuring he definitely would not make it before he got blinded off.

After some discussion, it was decided that he should have to be present to make any sort of bet other than being blinded off. I think that was the right decision, but since it had never really come up before, just wondering how/if anyone else has dealt with the same situation.

Josh · Tweet this Post! #2 08-09-2009, 01:07 PM

Blind him off.

Did his chips make the money?

abby99 · Tweet this Post! #3 08-09-2009, 01:39 PM

I agree: Blind him off.

ttflyr · Tweet this Post! #4 08-09-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Biceman

.....he should have to be present to make any sort of bet other than being blinded off.

Without checking the rules, this just seems right!

cgraham86 · Tweet this Post! #5 08-09-2009, 01:48 PM

Yep, he should be present for a bet like that. He can't phone it in.

Some house rules specify that if a player doesn't show within a specified amount of time their chips are either dead or split amongst the other players, but obviously the fairest version of this is to just let the blinds do their job.

In some smaller SnG's I've seen someone actually make a final table and not even be there. Making the money is close to impossible. The conditions would have to be right - lots of players busting out quickly.

gambler3332 · Tweet this Post! #6 08-10-2009, 07:54 AM

If it's a friendly game with regular players, I would definitely allow this to happen. The guy is willing to basically donate his money and should be given some slack. Not an issue with me.

ontheuptick · Tweet this Post! #7 08-10-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gambler3332

If it's a friendly game with regular players, I would definitely allow this to happen. The guy is willing to basically donate his money and should be given some slack. Not an issue with me.

100% agree.

Biceman · Tweet this Post! #8 08-10-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cgraham86

Yep, he should be present for a bet like that. He can't phone it in.

Some house rules specify that if a player doesn't show within a specified amount of time their chips are either dead or split amongst the other players, but obviously the fairest version of this is to just let the blinds do their job.

I agree with this. I guess if you announce the rule ahead of time, then it's "fair" to keep their money but pull their chips off, but I just don't see the point. If you want people to be on time so you can get things started more easily, I understand that and there are ways to encourage that. But once you've started without them being present, I don't see why you'd have a cutoff time as long as you have or know that you'll have their money.

I think the rule that a player has to be seated at the table by the end of the deal or his cards are mucked would justify not allowing the player to call in any action. We normally bend that rule until it's the player's turn, like if they're running back from the bathroom or something, but that's quite different than calling from some other location.

His chips came in 13th out of 19. In terms of time he lasted about 2-1/2 hours out of a 4-hour tournament.

jdunford · Tweet this Post! #9 08-10-2009, 01:21 PM

Depends if he paid the buy-in (or is sure to pay later - at risk of broken knees or something). If so, continue to blind off his chips. If his stack makes the money, so be it. Add extra insult to those who bust out before the absent player.

If not, remove the remaining chips from play, count them, and apologize to everybody for the messed up average stacks. Total chips in play (and average stacks) should be updated based on the partial starting stack that ended up in play.

links_slayer · Tweet this Post! #10 08-10-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jdunford

Depends if he paid the buy-in

no it doesn't. you don't get chips if you don't pay your buy-in. period.

the "friendly-ness" of the game is irrelevant. follow the rules and blind him off.