[jldecarlo]

Originally Posted by JoseRijo

Why are you trying to raise to $6 from the small blind with limpers behind you?

As I recall, I was just building the pot a little, I expected to be called around. I honestly don't remember my hole cards.

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[whataboutj]

Originally Posted by JoseRijo

I'll ask the obvious question:

Why are you trying to raise to $6 from the small blind with limpers behind you?

The dealer did you a favor, imo.

What do you think he should have raised it to? (serious question)
J

[Nexttime]

You threw in a single chip without saying raise. If you had throw more than one chip out, it would have been a raise. I would have called string bet on you if I was the big blind and the dealer didn't call single chip on you.



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[whataboutj]

Originally Posted by Nexttime

You threw in a single chip without saying raise. If you had throw more than one chip out, it would have been a raise. I would have called string bet on you if I was the big blind and the dealer didn't call single chip on you.



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Actually he added a chip to his small blind so there were two chips in front of him. I would think if it was a one chip call he would have pulled back his SB chip. That and if he had more $1's in front of him then I'm not sure how it could be considered a one chip call except that he didn't verbalize his action
J

[Nexttime]

Originally Posted by whataboutj

Actually he added a chip to his small blind so there were two chips in front of him.

Precisely. When it was his turn to act, he reached for a single chip. He threw in a single chip. There were two distinct motions at different times, one to put the blind out, the cards were dealt and then he reached to his stack, pulled out a single chip and threw it in. Separate actions.

The player can (and should) defend himself against string bet complaints or the single chip rule by declaring his intention before moving his chips.





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[Freelancer72]

Originally Posted by Nexttime

The player can (and should) defend himself against string bet complaints or the single chip rule by declaring his intention before moving his chips.





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thank you! my thoughts exactly. you all have a voice, USE IT! so many situations arise in games that could have been averted had the player only used his power of speech and uttered a word or 2.

verbalize your actions people! don't be so lazy and mute.

[whataboutj]

Originally Posted by Nexttime

Precisely. When it was his turn to act, he reached for a single chip. He threw in a single chip. There were two distinct motions at different times, one to put the blind out, the cards were dealt and then he reached to his stack, pulled out a single chip and threw it in. Separate actions.

That makes no sense (to me anyway). Why would he need to get two chips when there was $1 already in from of him? Are you saying he should have taken a $5 and a $1 and put them in and taken the $1 that is already there back? That's not how I did it when I played in Vegas. I would add whatever additional amount I intended to raise, to my blinds that were already in front of me.

That being said I always verbalized my bet/intention.

One time in a tourney I pushed all my chips in front of me into the pot intending to go all in........except I forgot about the stack of $100's I was shuffling . I got called but couldn't get any more chips out of the other player after he missed the turn and river -- never have made a move without declaring first since then.

Originally Posted by Nexttime

The player can (and should) defend himself against string bet complaints or the single chip rule by declaring his intention before moving his chips.
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I agree completely

[Nexttime]

Originally Posted by whataboutj

That's not how I did it when I played in Vegas. I would add whatever additional amount I intended to raise, to my blinds that were already in front of me.

That being said I always verbalized my bet/intention.

The original poster didn't declare raise, threw in a single chip (doesn't matter if he was a blind) and got caught in the single chip rule.

I understand what you are saying. All I am saying is that if you did that in a game I was in without saying raise before throwing out that single chip, I would call single chip, if the dealer didn't. More times than not, I suspect the dealer would agree and declare that the small blind called and remind the player to declare his/her intentions verbally next time.



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[whataboutj]

The other thing I will add is that I have always understood the single chip rule to be literally that: a single chip bet without a declaration of a raise.

The only times I have seen it called is when a player not in the blinds puts out a single chip to call a BB that is smaller (ie: a $5 chip to call a $2 BB).

Again that's why I declare my intentions before betting

[JM]

Simply put, your $1 small blind was technically already part of the pot and in the pot for all intents and purposes, its just left in front of you but its not like you have a choice to take it back or not. Its already gone. So you really did just put out one chip. If you pulled it back and then threw it back out with the $5 chip, it'd be a raise. As others already said, just say raise or say the amount of the raise .