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I think the points here are assuming all show one common trait - that it depends on the home rules. If they follow RRoP or TDA, next time this happens (and what should have been done assuming these are the rules), you should simply say "check" after he does that. That keeps his verbal as binding, and you call afterwards. If it's loosey-goosey home game in this respect, then there is no way for you to know exactly how to play it, because there are no set rules until it does happen and you have to ask when it does. I understand your anger/disappointment, but thee is nothing you can do about it now except to cover your bases going forward so it doesn't happen again...
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I think the points here are assuming all show one common trait - that it depends on the home rules. If they follow RRoP or TDA, next time this happens (and what should have been done assuming these are the rules), you should simply say "check" after he does that. That keeps his verbal as binding, and you call afterwards. If it's loosey-goosey home game in this respect, then there is no way for you to know exactly how to play it, because there are no set rules until it does happen and you have to ask when it does. I understand your anger/disappointment, but thee is nothing you can do about it now except to cover your bases going forward so it doesn't happen again...
I agree. Let this situation serve as an illustration of why it's in our individual best interests to learn the standard rules so that we can apply them on the fly.
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FYI: From the EPT Grand Final

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Within the first 20 minutes of play, it was Stig Top Rasmussen that would be the first to be eliminated in tenth place in an unusual set of circumstances. The action folded to Michael Martin on the button, who opened for 70,000 chips. Valeriy Ilikyan in the small blind was yet to act when Rasmussen in the big blind declared he was all-in. The tournament director was called over and ruled that Rasmussen's verbal action was binding and Ilikyan still had the option to act. Ilikyan called Rasmussen's all-in as Martin stepped aside. It was Rasmussen's pocket tens against Ilikyan's pocket jacks. The board preserved the status quo and Rasmussen consoled himself with $199,533.
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I am very impress with his play (Glen Chorny). If the blind was high and the game is shorter it would not have been Glen Chorny game. Patience was his advantage.

I was really impress when Glen holding pocket 66 and Luca KQ. Flop all low card....Glen call Luca to the river to see Luca caught the Q to win the pot (over $1Million). Glen read was dead on but unlucky river dent to his stack.

Great structure IMO.
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I agree. Let this situation serve as an illustration of why it's in our individual best interests to learn the standard rules so that we can apply them on the fly.
Exactly what I'm going to do. A fast call would lock his bet! I myself, need to get faster at applying the rules! Why......because as abby99 said, It is in my best interest.

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If this happened at our game (which I'm sure it has before), then if I felt I had the best hand, I just make the call of his all-in. I don't really see that there is anything he can do to fight it at this point.

Even without seeing all the official rules. The guy made a bet on a pot, if you call it I don't really care whose turn it was...

To me, it's like saying that someone can fold their cards in last position out of turn, then see everyone else is folding or there is no raise of the pot, and then pull their cards back and stay in the hand...not acceptable!

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I agree with LC. In hindsight, this approach would require he pulls out the rule book instead of you.

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FWIW, in your situation, I wouldn't have even pointed out that he acted out of turn. I simply would have said "I call." Some people would consider this unethical, I suppose, but I don't think it is, considering it's his mistake; and I know the proper ruling is that his action should stand.
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