[jaeden]

Hey All,

I have two ruling questions that always seem to come up in my home games and I need a definite answer if anyone can help.

1) Is it considered a max raised pot if someone at the table says "I bet pot" when someone already placed a bet out before him??? For example if the pot is $10 and on the flop someone bets out $5 can the next person say "I bet pot" meaning he can bet $15?

2) Do you have to show ALL 4 cards to win the pot if it is checked down on the river??

If someone can direct me to a link that shows these rules that would be great. Thanks.

[Harlequin011]

In PLO

pot includes the bets that have already been placed.

And

All cards must be shown at showdown

[Jonah 99]

For #1 in our home games, a raised pot bet in that situation would be $20.

pot was $10
bet was $5
so it's $5 to the next player when they raise, they get to put that bet in, thus it becomes part of the pot ($20) and now raise by the amount in the pot.

[Matthew]

Be aware, betting the pot and raising the pot are 2 different things as well.

[Guma]

Originally Posted by Matthew

Be aware, betting the pot and raising the pot are 2 different things as well.

If you could so kindly explain the difference...

[jojobinks]

10 in the pot

first to act bets 5

max bet to you is $25 in plo

why: there's 15 in the pot. in PL, the raise comes AFTER your call. so you call the 5, now there's 20 in the pot, and you raise the pot (20). total bet is $25.

betting the pot = betting what's in the pot
raising the pot = 3*the last bet + whatever's behind.

[Matthew]

Originally Posted by Guma

If you could so kindly explain the difference...

jojo - I didn't quite follow your post. With the 3*... part

Betting the pot/raising the pot ....

$10 in preflop - flop comes. First to act bets $5. Folds around to you (so heads up)

You be the pot. There is now $15 in the pot ($10 + $5) so your bet is $15. First bettor needs to call $10.

You raise the pot. There is now $20 in the pot ($10 + $5 + your call of $5) so your raise is $20 more and your total bet is $25. First bettor needs to call $20.

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by Matthew

jojo - I didn't quite follow your post. With the 3*... part

3 times the last bet + whatever else is in the pot = a pot sized raise. this is the general rule of thumb, and what i clumsily tried to articulate there.

so 10 in the pot and a 5 bet. pot sized raise = 3*5+10=25.

[Freelancer72]

10 in the pot
bet of 5
if you're raising and say pot, it's the 10, the bet, your call =20 is the size of your raise, so the next person would have to call 40.

[Matthew]

Originally Posted by Freelancer72

10 in the pot
bet of 5
if you're raising and say pot, it's the 10, the bet, your call =20 is the size of your raise, so the next person would have to call 40.

I don't understand. In the above, your call is still $5 (not $20) and beacause you said "pot" the raise is the total in the pot, which is now $10 + bet of $5 + call of $5 = $20, so your raise is $20 and the 1st bettor must call $20 (not $40)

A pot bet is betting the size of the pot. Bets from players that have acted before you are now part of the pot.