[jldecarlo]

Had a rather odd problem at the tourney tonight. I wasn't playing at this table, but here is what happened:

Midway through a tournament, in a pretty large pot that started multi-way, but ended up with two players, the board was something like:



The first player to show turns over : to play the board

The second player says he has a higher full house and flips:
or THREE hole cards.

It was never clear if he was dealt three cards or if a card from the muck somehow got mixed in with his hole cards. I don't remember if he was the small blind or not, but I suppose that two cards could have stuck together when the hand was initially dealt. He said that he hadn't seen three cards when he checked his hole cards at the start of the hand.

Ruling???

L

[dap325]

Its odd that that the hand got as far as the river without the player realizing.. but I'd say it is a dead hand. I wouldn't know how to handle it as far as multiple players getting money back, and I don't have RROP in front of me, but that player is essentially "SOL" as far as I'm concerned. PROTECT YOUR CARDS!!

[abby99]

If you follow Robert's Rules of Poker, the hand is dead:

MISDEALS
1. Once action begins, a misdeal cannot be called. The deal will be played, and no money will be returned to any player whose hand is fouled. In button games, action is considered to occur when two players after the blinds have acted on their hands.
DEAD HANDS
1. Your hand is declared dead if:
(d) The hand does not contain the proper number of cards for that particular game

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by abby99

If you follow Robert's Rules of Poker, the hand is dead:

MISDEALS
1. Once action begins, a misdeal cannot be called. The deal will be played, and no money will be returned to any player whose hand is fouled. In button games, action is considered to occur when two players after the blinds have acted on their hands.
DEAD HANDS
1. Your hand is declared dead if:
(d) The hand does not contain the proper number of cards for that particular game

exactly. the three card hand is dead. AJ is awarded the pot.

[retravoh]

As bads as it might suck to give up a pot like that for this guy, you are the only one responsible for your hand. And if your hand is fouled and ruled dead (as it should be in this case) you are the only one to blame.

[tastic]

I say dead hand. Even if he thought he was playing crazy pineapple he should have discarded a card after the flop, so his hand was dead anyway

[jamby]

This actually happened to me once playing at Harrahs in Las Vegas and a redeal was ordered by the floor. I noticed it before the flop was dealt though, but after bets were made.

[Slim7]

I think the key point here is that action had already taken place. I don't see how someone would not notice until showdown, but sucks to be them...dead hand.

[jspearm1983]

I would hate to have this situation come up in my homegame, but I would have to call it a dead hand, even if the player honestly didn't know. The good thing about my homegame is that there are some other players who are finally learning roberts rules and they would have my back.

[tator2k]

We just recently had this happen in one of our games.

After table folding to the SB, SB noticed after calling that he had 3 cards. But before BB checked.

In this case we allowed him to return the amount equal to his call, and declared his hand dead.

He's still arguing about it 10 days later.