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Old 07-28-2007, 11:57 AM
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Handling the word "Okay"

This has come up time and time again in games I get involved with. If it's been brought up before, sue me.

Simple Tourney Example
Player A bets T200
Player B raises to T1000
Player A raises and is all-in
Player B thinks....thinks some more and says "Okay" He doesn't push his chips in, he doesn't do anything with his cards. He simply says "Okay" then looks at me like I'm supposed to do something.

I see 2 ways this can be interpreted.
1) "Okay, let's go. I call."
2) "Okay, you're hand is good. Take it down."

How would you handle this? The last time this happened, I said "Look, I don't know what you mean. Are you calling or folding when you say that?" He argued that he did verbally declare his action....
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Old 07-28-2007, 12:12 PM
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Re: Handling the word "Okay"

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This has come up time and time again in games I get involved with. If it's been brought up before, sue me.

Simple Tourney Example
Player A bets T200
Player B raises to T1000
Player A raises and is all-in
Player B thinks....thinks some more and says "Okay" He doesn't push his chips in, he doesn't do anything with his cards. He simply says "Okay" then looks at me like I'm supposed to do something.

I see 2 ways this can be interpreted.
1) "Okay, let's go. I call."
2) "Okay, you're hand is good. Take it down."

How would you handle this? The last time this happened, I said "Look, I don't know what you mean. Are you calling or folding when you say that?" He argued that he did verbally declare his action....
I would never assume "OK" means Fold, Call, Raise, or All in ...
The player should either say one of those , or cleary state something non ambigous like OK, I'll gamble with you, let's flip them & see the river card"..
As far as handling the situation, If he just blerts out "OK", without touching his chips or cards, if there is a dealer I would say & do nothing until the dealer says "flip over your cards" ... In a self deal game, I may also say nothing , & sit wait for him to say something like "I called you what are you waiting for" ..... Then I would say OH, "OK", back to him, & then flip my cards
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Re: Handling the word "Okay"

I would interpret it as "OK (now I need a moment to think)"

Kind of like saying "Alrighty then" meaning, "That puts a new spin on things, give me a moment."

From that point on, (he thought he had declared his action) I would insist on him using the proper terms to declare his actions, and only those words will be recognized, unless his physical actions accomplish one of them. (i.e. mucking, or pushing chips in while saying, "OK")
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I would interpret it as "OK (now I need a moment to think)"

Kind of like saying "Alrighty then" meaning, "That puts a new spin on things, give me a moment."

From that point on, (he thought he had declared his action) I would insist on him using the proper terms to declare his actions, and only those words will be recognized, unless his physical actions accomplish one of them. (i.e. mucking, or pushing chips in while saying, "OK")
absolutely!

there can be no vaguery where action on the table is involved. It may seem nit-picky, but setting and enforcing rules and a basic ettiquette for your home game makes it way more enjoyable for everyone.

at my game actions must be clearly announced on raises and reraises. chips must be moved past the 'betting line-race track' on all-ins. the pot must be raked together at the end of every betting round before the next street is turned. no splashing the pot is allowed.

this makes the game very enjoyable!
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I would interpret it as "OK (now I need a moment to think)"

Kind of like saying "Alrighty then" meaning, "That puts a new spin on things, give me a moment."

From that point on, (he thought he had declared his action) I would insist on him using the proper terms to declare his actions, and only those words will be recognized, unless his physical actions accomplish one of them. (i.e. mucking, or pushing chips in while saying, "OK")
Same opinion here! He could also say something like "well..." or whatever. Maybe to get some kind of a tell from the raiser.
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Re: Handling the word "Okay"

I also agree with the previous posters.
"Ok" Should never be interperated as an action.
Ok is like a self check. Then an action may proceed.

Player says "okay" followed by a pause. Inner voice may be talking.
Example 1: "OK!.....(innervoice) lets rock I hope I hit my 2 outer"
2: "Ok.......(innervoice) uhhh....I'm beat Hollywood time"
3: "Ok?....(innervoice) ahh so this S***4Brains is acting like he has the nutz to bad I gots me 4 aces"
4: "Ok... (innervoice)Man Yeltzen's, girl is a hotty what's she doing with that dude, he must have a 12 inch personality"
5"Ok...(innervoice)...I wonder if the smurfs are on tomorrow....I hope that wasn't out loud"
Acceptable verble statements. Call or fold or All-in.
Acceptable actions mucking cards or pushing chips.
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Same opinion here! He could also say something like "well..." or whatever. Maybe to get some kind of a tell from the raiser.
My first thought. As dealer I would do nothing until prompted by a response to the action on the player.
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The Dealer would ask the player "What does 'OK' mean?" and get clarification of his statement.
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Re: Handling the word "Okay"

"OK" is not a poker action. It is a recognition.

Tell the Neanderthal compose a complete thought and convey it to the rest of the table, and to stop being an ass when he gets sour when you look for clarification.
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Re: Handling the word "Okay"

You should post a new rule.

"OK is a synonym for FOLD"

That will fix him.
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