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07-27-2007, 10:23 AM
|  | On the Bubble | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bergen County NJ
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Chips: 141 | | | Would This be a String Bet / Angling in Your Game .... The following was never considered a string bet in my home games, & I've also seen this done often on Televised Tournaments, but I recently have come across a league & batch of players that consider the following a string bet/angling:
The BB is 2 black chips. Player A announces "raise", looks down & grabs a stack of 20 or so of his black chips. He extends his arm out , & makes a row of 3 piles of 4 chips each, pulling back the remainder in his hand & returning them to his stack, leaving the 3 smaller piles (12 chips), in front of him. The players/league I mention would require him to bet everything that was in his hand, even if they never touched the table, with the logic that it was a string bet (or angling), in the sense that Player A could be grabbing & moving forward a big stack of chips after saying "raise" to gauge other players reactions, & then decide to either drop them all, or bet a smaller amount & pull back the balance.
How do you deal w/this situation in your games and/or Casinos you have been to??
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07-27-2007, 10:29 AM
|  | Poker Nerd (and Admin) | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bottom pair and a flush draw Age: 35
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Chips: 18,495 | | | Re: Would This be a String Bet in Your Game .... he should bet everything in his hand unless he announces a smaller raise.
if the bb is 200 and he announces a raise to $1200, he can pull out as many chips as he wants, the bet is still $1200. | 
07-27-2007, 10:30 AM
|  | On the lookout | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta again
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Chips: 18,645 | | | Re: Would This be a String Bet in Your Game .... That's very common and I would not call it a string bet. I've never had it called at any casino or home game where I've played.
But I can see where they're coming from. It's a little sloppy and could be misused by an angle shooter. Of course, it's always better to announce your raise. | 
07-27-2007, 10:32 AM
| | In the Money | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 34
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Chips: 312 | | | Re: Would This be a String Bet in Your Game .... In my home game all bets are always verbal at first then the chips are counted out and placed in the pot because we have some players who seem to have trouble counting their chips when betting or raising LOL. I think they might have trouble counting in general  | 
07-27-2007, 10:33 AM
|  | Sin City Showdown Host | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In Cincinnati, Out of Position
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Chips: 4,603 | | | Re: Would This be a String Bet in Your Game .... This isn't called a string bet.
It is enforced in one of the three casinos I regularly play in. If he is using this as a maneuver to gain more info, than it is illegal and he should be forced to bet the amount in his hand.
There is a ring printed on the table at the place that enforces it, Belterra. Everything that goes over that line plays.
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07-27-2007, 10:46 AM
|  | World Series Champ | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The People's Republic of California Age: 94
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Chips: 3,421 | | | Re: Would This be a String Bet in Your Game .... It's not a string bet.
Where it becomes an issue is with a betting line on the table, and or an imaginary line on the table. In B&M room, (some, not all) they will have a rule that says you can't cut chips. What you take out (past the betting line) is the bet. Others say, you can take more out, but you need to announce your action, others say nothing. So it's B&M room based.
It's not so much a string bet, as it is an angle to shoot. | 
07-27-2007, 10:52 AM
|  | Sin City Showdown Host | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In Cincinnati, Out of Position
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Chips: 4,603 | | | Re: Would This be a String Bet in Your Game .... Quote:
Originally Posted by Quads It's not a string bet.
Where it becomes an issue is with a betting line on the table, and or an imaginary line on the table. In B&M room, (some, not all) they will have a rule that says you can't cut chips. What you take out (past the betting line) is the bet. Others say, you can take more out, but you need to announce your action, others say nothing. So it's B&M room based.
It's not so much a string bet, as it is an angle to shoot. | A couple years ago. Mandalay Bay was trying to book me, by saying that chips in front of the cards were considered a bet! Glad they told me!
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07-27-2007, 11:11 AM
|  | World Series Champ | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The People's Republic of California Age: 94
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Chips: 3,421 | | | Re: Would This be a String Bet in Your Game .... I was sitting in the Palms 2/5 NL game once with a pretty deep table, and they were trying to get a ruling with chips coming off the racetrack.
I'm a fan of it if the bet line it out on the table, or clearly understood where the "invisible" bet line is and people understand *WHY* the rule is there.
"Anything in front of your cards" doesn't fly. | 
07-27-2007, 11:15 AM
| | Final Table | | Join Date: Mar 2006
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Chips: 418 | | | Re: Would This be a String Bet in Your Game .... Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlequin011 This isn't called a string bet.
It is enforced in one of the three casinos I regularly play in. If he is using this as a maneuver to gain more info, than it is illegal and he should be forced to bet the amount in his hand.
There is a ring printed on the table at the place that enforces it, Belterra. Everything that goes over that line plays. | I have seen this in a number of casinos that have betting lines on the table if the chips go over the line then they are considered in the pot. | 
07-27-2007, 12:12 PM
|  | Creativity Alliance | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Edmonton
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Chips: 5,690 | | | Re: Would This be a String Bet in Your Game .... Different places seem to have different rules regarding cutting out chips and counting them prior to a bet/raise. I'm pretty sure that as long as you do this *behind your cards* then it is okay. If he's doing it out on the table, it will vary by place. I personally don't like it; it's pretty easy to see how it could cause problems. Just announce the amount or count behind your cards/betting line.
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