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A pet peeve of mine has always been the way many local leagues/games/players treat the "allowable raise rule".
Say blinds are 100/200. UTG raises $400 more, to $600 total. The correct (AC/LV Tournament) min allowed raise would then be $1000 (double his $400 raise = $800, plus call the remainder $200, for 1K total) ...
I run into way too many people that "think" you have to double "everything", & the min raise needs to be $1200 in that case ...
Anyone else run into this ...... I do understand some may decide to do this for a time saver or whatever, but many people ASSume you need to double "everything" to make a min allowable raise ....
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Re: Acceptable raise rules...

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A pet peeve of mine has always been the way many local leagues/games/players treat the "allowable raise rule".
Say blinds are 100/200. UTG raises $400 more, to $600 total. The correct (AC/LV Tournament) min allowed raise would then be $1000 (double his $400 raise = $800, plus call the remainder $200, for 1K total) ...
I run into way too many people that "think" you have to double "everything", & the min raise needs to be $1200 in that case ...
Anyone else run into this ...... I do understand some may decide to do this for a time saver or whatever, but many people ASSume you need to double "everything" to make a min allowable raise ....
i agree. i hate it when someone raises to 600 and i try to raise to 1000 but they make me make it 1200 instead.
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Re: Acceptable raise rules...

Yikes... It's a common misconception of the rules.

I'd double check with the TD and try to straighten him out -- it could get ugly if you ever get into a 3-way-one-guy-goes-all-in situation and the action SHOULD be reopened to guy #1.

example: blinds are 100/200
guy #1 makes it 600 total (raise of 400)
guy #2 moves all in for 1000 total
guy #3 calls

guy #1 should be allowed to reraise and shut out guy #3, but can't because the TD doesn't know the rules.
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I've come across the people that claim to know the rule when you mention it, but "we play you must make it double for a raise at this game/league" is their response.. Frustrating ...
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i agree. i hate it when someone raises to 600 and i try to raise to 1000 but they make me make it 1200 instead.
Be nice.
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I hate it more when they allow raises that is below what the last bet was. I was in a tourney with blinds of 25/50 and someone bet 200 and the raise was 20 more. I complaint but the TD said it was allowed. Amateurs!!!
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I have to admit that I never thought of this before tonight. I have always enforced the double ruling...although I can say with some certainity that I haven't encountered this size of reraise to often... but I have seen the less than double raise attempted quite often!!
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Re: Acceptable raise rules...

At my homegames every bet or raise has to be at least one BB. But you dont have to double the raise of you neighbour.
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I hate it more when they allow raises that is below what the last bet was. I was in a tourney with blinds of 25/50 and someone bet 200 and the raise was 20 more. I complaint but the TD said it was allowed. Amateurs!!!
sadly this is my experience as well. blinds are whatever lets say 40/80 and one guy says, "i raise to 200 str8". okay thats fine its a bet of 120, but then the next guys says "how bout 250..." thats just stupid. i used to say something but they just say "we don't play that way here" it especially annoys me when one person bets 500 over and someone else raises to 700 over and they may only have like 900 in chips, but whatever.
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I hate it more when they allow raises that is below what the last bet was. I was in a tourney with blinds of 25/50 and someone bet 200 and the raise was 20 more. I complaint but the TD said it was allowed. Amateurs!!!
That I've never run into as an official game policy ... I've seen the occasional player who tries to raise below the minimum, & is quickly corrected by other players or the dealer, but I haven't seen that one as an actual rule ..
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