[Seraph]

Okay, I think this a no-brainer, and that I handled it correctly, but I want to be sure.

While hosting a game last weekend, Player T went all-in against player M. While M was pondering over making the call, player T just got up and started walking away from the table. Granted, M was taking his time (and as we later saw, was not Hollywooding), but as I said, T just walked off, making his way to leave the room.

All of us looked at each other like he was crazy, but I was able to stop him before he got too far, saying that we would call his hand dead if he didn't sit back down.

I understand how the person thinking of making the call would get up and pace around in the immediate area, etc. I've got no problem with that. But anyone just walking away (and leaving the room)?

I know it seems like my prompt attitude could be construed as being a prick, especially since I didn't know the official ruling myself, but at the very least I considered it to be bad etiquitte.

What's everyone's take on this?

[texred1]

I do not beleive there is a clear cut rule on this.

IMHO, if a player in one of my tournements goes all-in. Then there is no more action he can take so really there is no need for him to be there any longer. All of his decisions have been made, and there is no reason that the hand would ever be mucked. I don't care if they guy goes to take a leak or steps outside for a smoke. If the other player calls, then the cards are gonna play themselves. If they other player folds, then award the pot and move on.

I realize it is not the exact same thing, but in PAD a few weeks ago, The Unibomber when all in, and then went over and laid on the couch taking a nap waiting for Phil Helmouth to make a decision.

~dustin

[2_hotty]

^^^^^what he said

[OnTheButton]

Unless the guy gets into his car and drives away, he gets to see all the cards, and keeps the chips if he wins. Even if he doesn't come back, his remaining chips are blinded out without him there.

I've gotten up from my chair at an all-in pre-flops before, gone to the john, gotten a fresh beer, lit up a smoke and then stood outside the window and watched as the rest of the hand unfolds.

Not a dang thing wrong with it, if you ask me.

[OnTheButton]

Thinking again about this, perhaps "T" didn't want "M" to pick up any type of read for the strength of his hand and the best way to do that is to not be near him.

I'm going to guess that "T" didn't really want the call, but would have been happy with just picking up the blinds. But when "M" started pondering, "T" decided not to give away any information about his hand, and split.

[dad604]

Nothing wrong with him leaving the room or evening driving away as others have pointed out. If he wins and not at the table, his stack just gets blinded away. You should have just let him do his own thing.

[the3rd]

I think saying that you are going to rule the hand dead if he doesn't sit back down is going too far. I'd ask him not to wander off, just so he doesn't slow the game down even more.

[Seraph]

Alright, so I guess I was way off. Live and learn.

I think saying that you are going to rule the hand dead if he doesn't sit back down is going too far. I'd ask him not to wander off, just so he doesn't slow the game down even more.

If he wasn't a touch on the thick-headed side, I probably wouldn't have worded it as strongly as I did....

PS- he wanted the call... which boggled my mind on its own.

[OnTheButton]

Originally Posted by Seraph

Alright, so I guess I was way off. Live and learn.


If he wasn't a touch on the thick-headed side, I probably wouldn't have worded it as strongly as I did....

PS- he wanted the call... which boggled my mind on its own.

You have learned a valuable poker hosting lesson Grasshopper...

After running weekly home games and about 5 tournaments a year for about the last 2 years, you have to take a wide variety of player attitudes into consideration when inviting your guests.

Some people scream obscenities, some people pout visibly, some people jump out of their chairs, some people stomp out. Some get drunk and sloppy, some don't say a word from the moment they sit down, and some want to talk to everyone, even when they are in a hand.

But I've learned this... If you don't like the player, (not necessarily the way they play) don't invite him or her over. Because over time you will resent them being in your home, and that will effect your game as well as your presence as the host and controller to the other players.

Although this guy didn't do anything wrong, it seems there is a personal discrepancy between you and he that needs to be resolved before he comes back over again.

Now if the game wasn't at your house, shut up and sit back down.

[weak]

i thought it's ok to leave the table after declaring all in too, but after reading through that tda tournament rules i start to wonder:

#38
Action Pending

Players must remain at the table if they still have action pending on a
hand.

now the question is what exactly 'action pending' means?