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Old 11-15-2006, 02:00 PM
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Hey Guys and Gals,

I need some advice on betting structure for my home game. I’ve been playing no limit with the same 7-8 people for the last two years. We’ve always played a 50cent/$1 game and people who win walkout with about $100 and those who lose maybe $40-$60. For the last few months however, betting has been getting out of hand I feel. Pre-flop gets as high as $50 sometimes and the ending pot can be $150. Winner now can easily walk out with $400-$500 and losers have lost up to $500. It’s madness! I need a structure that will keep the game friendly yet competitive and enjoyable. How does this betting structure sound? Or can you recommend one for me?

Blinds 50cent/$1

Pre-flop $5 Max bump up to 3 times
Flop $10 Max bump up to 3 times
Turn and River no limit

Thanks in advance for any comments or suggestions.

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Hey Guys and Gals,

I need some advice on betting structure for my home game. I’ve been playing no limit with the same 7-8 people for the last two years. We’ve always played a 50cent/$1 game and people who win walkout with about $100 and those who lose maybe $40-$60. For the last few months however, betting has been getting out of hand I feel. Pre-flop gets as high as $50 sometimes and the ending pot can be $150. Winner now can easily walk out with $400-$500 and losers have lost up to $500. It’s madness! I need a structure that will keep the game friendly yet competitive and enjoyable. How does this betting structure sound? Or can you recommend one for me?

Blinds 50cent/$1

Pre-flop $5 Max bump up to 3 times
Flop $10 Max bump up to 3 times
Turn and River no limit

Thanks in advance for any comments or suggestions.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but why are you tring to limit the betting? Is it not friendly anymore? Are people losing to much money?

If you want no limit then you could lower the buy in to max buy in $40 this would be ok for a little while until people get really big stacks? Otherwise I would just say play limit, with the turn and river unlimited raises?
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Re: Help on controlling betting amounts

How about pot limit?


Who is this out of hand for? You, or all the players? If it isn't bothering other players, then perhaps the game has just evolved to most of the participant's comfort level.. It sounds like the blinds are too small for the game some of the participants want to play maybe?
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Oh it's friendly still, but I don't like people losing 5 bills week after week. We only have a $20 buyin. Essentially people will buyin and go all in the same hand. I'm hoping my structure will save some people money, but will still keep the game somewhat compeitive.


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Please don't take this the wrong way, but why are you tring to limit the betting? Is it not friendly anymore? Are people losing to much money?

If you want no limit then you could lower the buy in to max buy in $40 this would be ok for a little while until people get really big stacks? Otherwise I would just say play limit, with the turn and river unlimited raises?
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There are some players who have no control and call anything to chase some kinda draw. Pot limit might be good idea. I don't think blinds would help since there are a lot of aggressive betters.

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Who is this out of hand for? You, or all the players? If it isn't bothering other players, then perhaps the game has just evolved to most of the participant's comfort level.. It sounds like the blinds are too small for the game some of the participants want to play maybe?
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I think it might be time to bump up the limits as well. Is $20 the max buy-in? Maybe you could keep the blinds but increase the buy-in to $40-50?
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Do pot limit, we do no limit holdem and Pot limit omaha. No limit omaha could get crazy, but our pots still do get big, we were playing .50/1 then we started losing players and peopl eseemed more comfortable with .25/.50 it really doesn't change the betting much. Preflop a typical raise is to $2.50-$4 this is whether it's .25/.50 or .50/1, but at least in PLO you can see a flop for cheap enough if it doesn't get reraised. The pots still escalate to $40-$100 though...oh I did win almost a $200 pot a few weeks ago against matthew....in .25/.50 nlhe. last hand of the night, I get dealt pocket aces, raise my standard $2.50, he raises to $7.50. At this point I figure I just want to end it and push...(about $89 at this time$20 buy-in). He CALLED-DAMN HIM! I wanted it over!...He showed Queens...I hit an ace on the raggedy flop........Sorry Matt for the bad memory.
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I think it might be time to bump up the limits as well. Is $20 the max buy-in? Maybe you could keep the blinds but increase the buy-in to $40-50?

I'm nervous about bumping up the buyins. I'm almost certain there will be some individual who will go all in, just because they get desperate. I think I do need some kind of limit stucture, but now sure what will make it still competitive?
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Do pot limit, we do no limit holdem and Pot limit omaha. No limit omaha could get crazy, but our pots still do get big, we were playing .50/1 then we started losing players and peopl eseemed more comfortable with .25/.50 it really doesn't change the betting much. Preflop a typical raise is to $2.50-$4 this is whether it's .25/.50 or .50/1, but at least in PLO you can see a flop for cheap enough if it doesn't get reraised. The pots still escalate to $40-$100 though...oh I did win almost a $200 pot a few weeks ago against matthew....in .25/.50 nlhe. last hand of the night, I get dealt pocket aces, raise my standard $2.50, he raises to $7.50. At this point I figure I just want to end it and push...(about $89 at this time$20 buy-in). He CALLED-DAMN HIM! I wanted it over!...He showed Queens...I hit an ace on the raggedy flop........Sorry Matt for the bad memory.
I like the pot limit idea. do you find it troublesome to keep a tally of the pot size?
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Re: Help on controlling betting amounts

try what they do on the speed poker shows. Play pot-limit preflop and then no-limit after the flop. Keeps things from getting to crazy preflop and then people will usually slow down a little when they realize they are playing 5 cards instead of just two after the flop.
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