[ky70]

Originally Posted by PFunk

...What about re-straddling?...isnt this allowed in most cases where a straddle is, and can you do it from any position, or do you really have to be next to the person UTG who initiates the straddle in order to re-straddle?...Is there even such thing as a re-straddle, or am I just all messed up on this from playing in that game to initially be introduced to a straddle a few years back
P.

I believe you have to be next to UTG in order to restraddle (unless the player to your immediate right restraddles). For example (and assuming UTG straddles), I don't believe the player in position 5 (UTG +2) can restraddle unless the player in position 4 (UTG +1) has restraddled...but I'm not sure if this is how it goes.

If Jambine stops by, he may be able to verify if this is correct.

[Quads]

Originally Posted by ky70

I believe you have to be next to UTG in order to restraddle (unless the player to your immediate right restraddles). For example (and assuming UTG straddles), I don't believe the player in position 5 (UTG +2) can restraddle unless the player in position 4 (UTG +1) has restraddled...but I'm not sure if this is how it goes.

If Jambine stops by, he may be able to verify if this is correct.

I'm not Jambine, but let me poke my voice in here and see if I can share what I am familiar with.

UTG places straddle.
UTG+1 *can* place "Over-straddle" however it is typically not live, as the UTG 'live straddle' usually is. Over-calling or over-straddling is effectively a dark bet, or a dead call. Unless the pot it raised, he can not raise with an option once the action comes around to him.

In most cases, (typically in CA. card rooms) providing there is a Straddle or live bet to your right, you can over-straddle that bet.

(House) Rules are rules:
Some card rooms say the action is live, and you have last option on it. (UTG) Others say you do not have last action.

Some say there is / will not be any over-straddling allowed.

I've been in a few card rooms which give the over straddler last action as well. Rare, but it happens.

Vegas, (most every) card rooms / poker rooms ONLY allow a straddle to be 2X the BB. (in, for example a NL game and or a limit game)

California card rooms, most often is *any* amount in a NL game, or 2X the BB in a limit / structured game.

While in NV., N. Lake Tahoe typically allows straddles in their N/L games, and the straddle can be no more than the MAX buyin of the table. ($3/5 NL game, max buy in of 1000, max straddle of 1000) ((yes, this has been an issue in the big game they run at Harvey's, where a player was making outrageous live bets when it was his UTG.))

One last option / scenario is that the button can straddle, or place a live bet regardless. And of course get's last action on his post. (this is common in NL games in and around Reno)

[ky70]

Nice post Quads but it may take me the rest of the week to get all that straight.

[Quads]

Speaking of straddle.

Playing $10/20 Kill last night. I've killed it nad am on the button with the kill posted. There is a straddle, *AND* and over-straddle. Best part of it was me, waking up with the black aces. 4 way action capped preflop in a kill pot.

I love play poka...

Ship it to the fat kid in seat 2.

[Gilch]

ive straddled many times when i a ring game is deadly boring
ive never called a straddle though ...... i re raise if i have a hand
just calling a straddle would be like playing a pot with the BB .... bcuz the straddler is not "likely" to have a hand ..

[Quads]

One other straddle I remembered tonight while playing in a card room that allows it, which is / can often be called a "Mississippi Straddle" and possibly referred to as other names.

Similar to a Kill, but different: This straddle is placed on the button.
For example, in a $2/5 NL game, you straddle (for only) 2X the BB on the button. THIS FORCES THE BLINDS TO PAY $10 TO BE DELT IN (or) SEE THE FLOP.........*AND* THE SB IS FIRST to act, followed by the BB, then "UTG" accordingly around the table.

It's effectively an "Over's" bet, placed on the button.

(I'm not shouting, but it is an important detail to this type of straddle, so I wanted it to stand out )