[PFunk]

I was under the impression that you can straddle from ANY position for ANY amount...I dont understand all this minimum raise stuff being discussed etc, a straddle is just a dark bet basically of any amount as far as I am concerned, and it is most often executed by a player UTG...As mentioned it loosens up the action, builds a nice pot, and lets the UTG person attempt to take position in the hand...

Different houses, and casino's have differing rules obviously, but when I have played at places allowing a straddle (no casino's), its from any position for any amount, and generally a bigger raise then the standard 3x, more like 5-7x the BB is generally done, and this person has last action...If they are in middle position everyone acts around them, then back through the blinds until their action.


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[Jambine]

I think we got on two different subjects here. I knew somebody out there would understand the straddle bet, and presto; it’s Bob Ciaffone to the rescue. From Robert’s Rules, V7:

Definition. STRADDLE: An additional blind bet placed after the forced blinds, usually double the big blind in size or in lowball, a multiple blind game.

SECTION 14 - NO LIMIT AND POT-LIMIT
#3. A straddle bet sets a new minimum bring-in; it is not treated as a raise.

#15. In non-tournament games, one optional live straddle is allowed. The player who posts the straddle has last action for the first round of betting and is allowed to raise. To straddle, a player must be on the immediate left of the big blind, and must post an amount twice the size of the big blind.

RR does not address a continuation of the straddle bet, although I’ve often seen it done in casinos.
So as always, read the house rules before you sit down.

[ky70]

Originally Posted by Jambine

Sure. As long as the action is on you. If we are heads up and I check dark, it's your turn to act. You can call, raise or fold in the dark.

So if 3 players are in the hand...if player A checks or bets in the dark, and Player B takes no action in the dark action (decides to wait for the card(s) to be flipped...imagine that), then Player 3 would not be allowed to do anything in the dark?

[Jambine]

Originally Posted by ky70

So if 3 players are in the hand...if player A checks or bets in the dark, and Player B takes no action in the dark action (decides to wait for the card(s) to be flipped...imagine that), then Player 3 would not be allowed to do anything in the dark?

Yes. It has to be your turn. The action stops at player B

[Sniper2075]

Originally Posted by Jambine

Yes. It has to be your turn. The action stops at player B

Also, if I was in the middle of that situation, first player checks and I'm second with another player behind me, I will probably wait to see the flop. Generally people try to check in the dark as a way of getting out of bad postion, but I don't see the point. I may do it now and again just to change up the way I play but those are few and far between.

[Gameface]

Originally Posted by PFunk

I was under the impression that you can straddle from ANY position for ANY amount...I dont understand all this minimum raise stuff being discussed etc, a straddle is just a dark bet basically of any amount as far as I am concerned, and it is most often executed by a player UTG...As mentioned it loosens up the action, builds a nice pot, and lets the UTG person attempt to take position in the hand...

Different houses, and casino's have differing rules obviously, but when I have played at places allowing a straddle (no casino's), its from any position for any amount, and generally a bigger raise then the standard 3x, more like 5-7x the BB is generally done, and this person has last action...If they are in middle position everyone acts around them, then back through the blinds until their action.


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How can a person get last action if someone has to act after the blinds but before them? You cannot make a staddle if you do not have the next action.

[pjs5388]

The guys in our poker group LOVE to straddle. It really brings the game to life!

[hachkc]

In my home cash game last weekend, I straddled 2 hands. The first I ended up with JJ which won a small pot and the second hand I got AA and won a good size pot against someone with QQ.

[snuffy]

i wonder whose idea was it to do this and how they came about to these rules?

[PFunk]

Originally Posted by Gameface

How can a person get last action if someone has to act after the blinds but before them? You cannot make a staddle if you do not have the next action.

Action skips over them, then comes back to them after the blinds...Obviously this is wrong according to poker rules I guess, and I've always wondered about it....But, I used to play in a wild, loose 1/2 game occasionally where it wasnt uncommon for someone to straddle $10-$15 regularly, and they would allow this.

What about re-straddling?...isnt this allowed in most cases where a straddle is, and can you do it from any position, or do you really have to be next to the person UTG who initiates the straddle in order to re-straddle?...Is there even such thing as a re-straddle, or am I just all messed up on this from playing in that game to initially be introduced to a straddle a few years back


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