[jcsprankle]

We had a situation come about at our tourney over the weekend. The short stack had to post the Big Blind, which, at the time was $2000. She only had $1100 so she was all-in but couldn't post the entire blind.

The main pot was $1000 (SB) + $1100 (BB) + $4000 (2 callers) = $6100. The BB ended up winning the main pot. The question came up about how much did she win? Did she win the entire main pot even though she couldn't post the entire BB or did she only win a portion (a little more than 50%) since that's all she could put in?

Thanks for your help!

[Strange]

Originally Posted by jcsprankle

We had a situation come about at our tourney over the weekend. The short stack had to post the Big Blind, which, at the time was $2000. She only had $1100 so she was all-in but couldn't post the entire blind.

The main pot was $1000 (SB) + $1100 (BB) + $4000 (2 callers) = $6100. The BB ended up winning the main pot. The question came up about how much did she win? Did she win the entire main pot even though she couldn't post the entire BB or did she only win a portion (a little more than 50%) since that's all she could put in?

Thanks for your help!

The latter. She would have won 3300 total, with the rest going to the next best hand.

[Wylecoyo]

You can only win what you put in. From each player that is.

[Button Potato]

Originally Posted by Strange

The latter. She would have won 3300 total, with the rest going to the next best hand.

Actually she takes $4300 (her $1100 all-in bet, 2 callers @ $1100, and 1 small blind @ $1000) of the pot. The next best hand takes down $1800.

[jcsprankle]

Obviously, we knew this was the case. But, this one guy swore that a special rule applied when a player could only post part of a blind...he swore that the player would win all the blinds. Now, I know better.

Thanks!

[erikk]

Originally Posted by Strange

The latter. She would have won 3300 total, with the rest going to the next best hand.

She should have won $4300 not $3300.

Caller 1 $1100
Caller 2 $1100
SB (folded) ($1000)
BB ($1100)
Total $4300

The additional $1800 in the pot should go to caller 1 or caller 2 depending on who had the better hand.

EDIT: Damn BP beat me to it. What he said.

[Strange]

Of course, my bad.

[MeridianFC]

Obviously you were unclear of the rule at the time, but in future you should separate all side pots as soon as they are formed. So in the first round of betting you'd make a pot that contained what the all in player could win, and place it more towards that player, and then a second pot with all subsequent action. I find it helpful to remind the players to keep their cards down as there is still live action, many players are tempted to toss their cards up as soon as they're all in.

[Spaceman Spiff]

These kinds of situations are also one of the primary reasons for not splashing the pot. Keep your bets out in front of you, that way it is much easier to see who has what and what needs to go in which pot. When everyone just crashes everything together or you get those guys that are in a hurry for whatever reason to bring all the bets in, it can be nearly impossible to figure out what goes where.

[jcsprankle]

Originally Posted by MeridianFC

Obviously you were unclear of the rule at the time, but in future you should separate all side pots as soon as they are formed. So in the first round of betting you'd make a pot that contained what the all in player could win, and place it more towards that player, and then a second pot with all subsequent action. I find it helpful to remind the players to keep their cards down as there is still live action, many players are tempted to toss their cards up as soon as they're all in.

We use side pots for every all-in where there is additional betting. But, someone at the table was sure this situation was a special case and we weren't sure a sidepot was required or not. Now I know. Thanks for the clarification!!