[Matthew]

Two things happened last night - that were ackward - the corrections were accepted by everyone and there was absolutely no disagreements and no one was upset.

Just looking for opinions, experience and knowledge.

1. We skipped someone's deal - in NL Holdem. Player to my right had put out a small blind (he should have been the big blind in the hand, player to his right should have been the small blind and didn't post it)- I saw the small blind out there it and just posted the big blind - action continued and after the hand was done the player who didn't post his small blind wanted the deal. The player who incorectly posted the small blind wanted the button. We just continued on and i became the small blind and the player that never posted the sb never got a deal that round. BTW - the player that was dealing the hand with the screwed up blinds was new and relatively inexperienced and did't catch the mispostings.

Any opinions on what the correct decision should be?

2. 5 Draw - I'm dealing, 1st two players get their cards, then I think it's me next because I can't see that one more player still has cards. I take my one card (kept a 6,7,8,9) and got a King. Player who I skipped because his hands wee over his cards says what about me. No one has acted yet, other than me taking the one card. I obviously know what card I got on the draw. We decided to put the King back in the deck and re-shuffle, missed player gets his cards and i take one card and we go on. BTW - I did not get the straight the 2nd time around. Evryone seems cool with the decision.

Any opinions on this one?

Thanks,

Matthew

[bolgenmod]

The rule for number one is that once significant action has taken place, you cannot rewind. So the dealer who didn't deal is out of luck. (Always protect your action!)

A similar thing happened a few days ago at the casino: the button was somehow moved twice, so the person who was supposed to be sb was button, person to be bb was sb, etc. I was happily stacking chips when the deal occurred (and in late position so this didn't really affect me), so when I looked up right after the cards had been dealt, I noticed the mistake. I immediately mentioned it, the dealer called the floor, who ruled that since all the cards had been dealt and utg had already acted (only one who acted), the button should stay as it was. I thought this was strange because it didn't seem to me that significant action had happened. Or that someone should miss a blind (which is usually not allowed when a player busts in a position that would cause a missed blind). But that was the ruling. So you did the right thing, especially as it seems that the mistake wasn't noticed until significant action occurred.

And after all, only the button is really adversely affected by this: someone misses a bb, someone else a sb, which is of course an advantage to them (albeit probably a small one: it is in my game!). The dealer misses his button, which is bad, but really, if he was supposed to actually be dealing (as opposed to the casino where he is dealt to), it's hard to see how he could forget. And his idea of going back to give him his deal after the hand? No way: that would just cause worlds of confusion!! Missing his button is probably a small punishment for a mistake on his part -- protect your action!

As for the second, that also seems to be correct. We don't play draw anymore, but the "shuffle the wrong card back in the deck" rule applies to board mistakes in holdem, so it should apply in draw.

I think you did the absolutely correct thing in both cases. And it's good no one objected. Maybe you need a set of Robert's Rules or something similar. Or a designated rules maven: someone whose rulings everyone can and will accept without question. That's how we do it: no printed rules, but some know-it-all (guess who) who knows the rules best. But if a dispute really came up, I would go straight to the computer and Robert's Rules.

[wijwij]

Robert's Rules of Poker states this for the first issue you raised:

IRREGULARITIES
"1.*** In button games, if it is discovered that the button was placed incorrectly on the previous hand, the button and blinds will be corrected for the new hand in a manner that gives every player one chance for each position on the round (if possible)."

I guess what that means is that you would "back up" the button for a hand, then advance it two spots for the next hand. That way everyone would have posted a big blind and a small blind during the round.

The way you handled the draw issue seems very fair to me, even though in your case it resulted in a bad hand. The idea being that the player before you should have had a chance to catch that king you got.

[Harlequin011]

That is the most logicial action to take on both situations.

The only thing that I would have a done that I didn't see mentioned, is expose the card being reshuffled.