Pot Limit Betting

Spaceman Spiff · #1 (**permalink**) 03-10-2006, 09:21 AM

Can someone clarify for me. I've going to be having some pot limit hold 'em events for my upcoming season. I like limit games, but most of my guys don't, so I compromised by only having 1 limit game and sprinking in a few PL games in addition to the majority of NL games.

All right, just want to make sure I have the betting rules straight. Example, blinds are 25-50. So the first guy to act, if he wants to raise. His call is counted making the pot 125 and then he can raise 125, correct? In other words, he can raise to a total of 175. I think I have that right, but I'm not sure. Can someone confirm this for me?

jojobinks · #2 (**permalink**) 03-10-2006, 09:25 AM

correct. you can raise the pot, which always includes your call first.

Enigma 12 · #3 (**permalink**) 03-10-2006, 09:27 AM

Simply way to remember is that you can match whatever is in the pot, thats it.

i run 8s · #4 (**permalink**) 03-10-2006, 10:30 AM

Just remember that playing pot limit at home is very slow. It is not like playing online where the math is done in a fraction of a second.

Nugzy · #5 (**permalink**) 03-10-2006, 10:32 AM

Ive played some pot limit games, and it can get a bit annoying sometimes if there is no one at the table that keeps track of the pot in their head. I usually make it a point (in any game) to know how much is in the pot, but alot of guys I play with dont.

hachkc · #6 (**permalink**) 03-10-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff

Can someone clarify for me. I've going to be having some pot limit hold 'em events for my upcoming season. I like limit games, but most of my guys don't, so I compromised by only having 1 limit game and sprinking in a few PL games in addition to the majority of NL games.

All right, just want to make sure I have the betting rules straight. Example, blinds are 25-50. So the first guy to act, if he wants to raise. His call is counted making the pot 125 and then he can raise 125, correct? In other words, he can raise to a total of 175. I think I have that right, but I'm not sure. Can someone confirm this for me?

Sometimes the the SB is rounded up to a full blind for betting purposes. This way you could make the initial raise to 200 (150 raise). This helps keep a bunch of SB chips from making it into the pot.

Spaceman Spiff · #7 (**permalink**) 03-10-2006, 10:42 AM

We played PLO before and it wasn't too bad. Someone out of the hand would usually keep the pot stacked up so it could be counted quickly. If someone would bet the pot and it wasn't counted out, another player would get to work counting while the action continued around the table. I don't remember too many holdups or at least I don't remember it being so bad that I vowed to never do a PL game again.

We'll see how it goes. I like having at least a little bit of a mix of games in my league. As much as I like NLHE, it can get kind of repetitive at times. Playing limit requires a little different skill set and PL should kind of be a hybrid of the two. I like a little broader test of skill and I also like a little change of pace every now and then. One of my events this season is also going to be Stud 8 or better. I'm really looking forward to that one!

Double Eagle · #8 (**permalink**) 03-10-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff

Can someone clarify for me. I've going to be having some pot limit hold 'em events for my upcoming season. I like limit games, but most of my guys don't, so I compromised by only having 1 limit game and sprinking in a few PL games in addition to the majority of NL games.

All right, just want to make sure I have the betting rules straight. Example, blinds are 25-50. So the first guy to act, if he wants to raise. His call is counted making the pot 125 and then he can raise 125, correct? In other words, he can raise to a total of 175. I think I have that right, but I'm not sure. Can someone confirm this for me?

The maximum raise in pot limit can be very confusing and I struggle with it myself. Based on blinds of 25 & 50, the maximum raise for the first to act would be 125 (for a total bet of 175) and the minimum raise would be 50 (for a total bet of 100.).

The maximum raise rule allows a player first to call the previous bet and then to bet the size of the pot, including that call. So in this case, there is 75 in the pot PLUS the call of 50 for a total max raise of 125. Including the call of 50, the total bet with a max raise would then be 175.

The way I do this mentally at the table is to total the amount in the pot, plus all current bets for that round and then add double the amount it is to me to call. This would be the total bet including the maximum raise.

I found this on PartyPoker.com that may help.

Maximum eligible raise: The size of the pot. The size of the pot is defined as the total of the Pot in the middle plus all bets on the table plus the amount the active player must first call before raising. As an example, the pot in the middle is 200 I chips and the first player to act in the round bets 150 and the next player calls 150... the third player has a maximum eligible total bet of 800. The 800 total is his 150 call and 650 raise. The 650 max raise portion is equal to the pot of 200 + first player's 150 + second player's 150 + his own call of 150.

I know, its confusing.

Quads · #9 (**permalink**) 03-10-2006, 05:59 PM

Pot limit.
One of the best betting structures invented!

My game of choice.

whitepotatoe · #10 (**permalink**) 03-11-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hachkc

Sometimes the the SB is rounded up to a full blind for betting purposes. This way you could make the initial raise to 200 (150 raise). This helps keep a bunch of SB chips from making it into the pot.

This is true. Especially if you are playing 2/5 or something where the raise would be to 20 instead of 17, and then if you have a reraise, it would be to 70 instead of 58, etc.