Perfect example, thank you. Makes more sense to me now.
One reason I ask is because we have a guy like this in our regular game. He will sometimes fold out of turn, sometimes even fold the BB when its unraised! We used to correct him when he did this, but now we just say, ok and quickly muck his cards. He is an interesting player to have in your game though, not quite a maniac, but not easy to read or bluff either. He's unpredictable so it make you have to play better, I think. I actually really enjoy having him in the game despite the occassional gaffes.
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Originally Posted by OnTheButton What I've seen is that often someone acts out of turn (let's say fold or check) and after that out of turn person acts, it seems to start a chain of actions behind it.
Let's say there are 6 players that call the blind to get to the flop.
Player 1 opens with a bet, and while player 2 is thinking, player 3 folds. Player 4 sees player 3 fold and folds himself. Player 5 sees player 4 fold, and folds as well, and right afterwards, player 6 thinks it's their turn, and raises to try and steal the pot since he is last to act. This all happens in about 3 seconds since everyone (except player 3 who acted out of turn and started this mess) is performing their chosen action based on the person before them acting.
Meanwhile player 2 pipes up as player 6 verbally declares "raise" and says, "Whoa, wait, I didn't even act yet! Can I have 5 seconds to act before the rest of the table makes their moves?"
What you have now is a skipped player, that caused an avalanche of premature action and a late acting player with a bet on the table, while player 2 was actually thinking about how MUCH to raise.
Because of that 3rd player folding out of turn, the action must now ALL be stopped, and backed up to player #2 who had yet to act. The folds still must stand, but can you make player 6's action (who was trying to steal) binding since all he saw was a slew of folds before him/her?
One player performing ANY kind of action out of turn can mess up the rhythm of the table on any given hand or street. |