Replace a player during a tournament?

Lime · #11 (**permalink**) 10-28-2005, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Double Eagle

If someone is going to be late, just blind them off until they arrive. If they don't show up by some pre-determined time, then pick up the remaining chips.

I agree this is the best as well. But if they don't show up by a certain time I believe the chips should be distributed evenly to the players at that table.

mcc235 · #12 (**permalink**) 11-09-2005, 12:49 PM

What about someone that has to leave before the end of the game? Assuming they get called away unexpectedly. Do you just blind them out or let a substitute in?

robert2504 · #13 (**permalink**) 11-09-2005, 01:07 PM

We did that once, we tried to be friendly and it just upset everyone. First the guy wanted to leave and would just go all in, when we told him that we didn't like that, he asked if we could allow someone else to take over. We agreed since we thought how bad could it be. The new guy took over and kept doing the same thing, go all in. The reason we allowed someone to take over was to be nice and we wouldn't have someone play like a maniac. Some times bending rules to be nice blows up in your face.

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Originally Posted by mcc235

What about someone that has to leave before the end of the game? Assuming they get called away unexpectedly. Do you just blind them out or let a substitute in?

JustinHEMI04 · #14 (**permalink**) 11-09-2005, 03:40 PM

Yes I have had similar requests, and I always say no.

Justin

Lime · #15 (**permalink**) 11-09-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mcc235

What about someone that has to leave before the end of the game? Assuming they get called away unexpectedly. Do you just blind them out or let a substitute in?

Here again you are supposed to distribute that person's remaining chips to the player's at the table.

austin5string · #16 (**permalink**) 11-09-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lime

Here again you are supposed to distribute that person's remaining chips to the player's at the table.

That is incorrect. Either the chips are left in play, and the player is blinded out, or the chips are removed from play.

Lime · #17 (**permalink**) 11-09-2005, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by austin5string

That is incorrect. Either the chips are left in play, and the player is blinded out, or the chips are removed from play.

From Homepokertourney.com Tournament rules:

"If a player leaves the table for any reason and will be away for longer than 20 minutes, he forfeits all his remaining chips, to be split evenly among the remaining players at

that table. Odd chips are returned to the bank. There will be no refunds or cash-outs given to players who leave after the first hand of the tourney is dealt."

http://www.homepokertourney.com/docs...ok-tourney.pdf

Not sure what would happen in a casino tournament but for a home game this seems to be a fair option.

gmunny · #18 (**permalink**) 11-09-2005, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lime

From Homepokertourney.com Tournament rules:

"If a player leaves the table for any reason and will be away for longer than 20 minutes, he forfeits all his remaining chips, to be split evenly among the remaining players at

that table. Odd chips are returned to the bank. There will be no refunds or cash-outs given to players who leave after the first hand of the tourney is dealt."

http://www.homepokertourney.com/docs...ok-tourney.pdf

Not sure what would happen in a casino tournament but for a home game this seems to be a fair option.

This happened to one of my tourneys one time too. We were playing a 3 table freezeout where the top 2 goes to the final table. Since everyone started with same chips and same number of players on each table, we decided to distribute the players chips evenly to the table since the top 2 at this table would be at a chip disadvantage vs. the other players.

If it wasn't a freezeout, I'm not sure that distibrubting the chips is fair to the players at other tables, so I may be inclined to remove the chips. Related to the OP, even though we have a friendly game, we do not allow subs ever. They need to play the whole way or forfeit and if they come late they get blinded out. It's just not fair to the others.
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austin5string · #19 (**permalink**) 11-09-2005, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lime

From Homepokertourney.com Tournament rules:

"If a player leaves the table for any reason and will be away for longer than 20 minutes, he forfeits all his remaining chips, to be split evenly among the remaining players at

that table. Odd chips are returned to the bank. There will be no refunds or cash-outs given to players who leave after the first hand of the tourney is dealt."

http://www.homepokertourney.com/docs...ok-tourney.pdf

Not sure what would happen in a casino tournament but for a home game this seems to be a fair option.

I think that's a rule that he added to his own book. Robert's Rules just specifically mentions the beginning of an event, not someone leaving in the middle. Curious, though, I emailed Bob Ciaffone.

My question: "In tournament style play, if a player leaves the game, what happens to their chips? I read in your rules that if a player isn't present at the start of an event, they will be blinded off for 20 minutes at which point the TD can remove the chips from play. This doesn't directly apply to someone that leaves the tournament in the middle. I have read some posts that say to remove the chips, and other that suggest the chips be divided evenly among remaining players – this doesn't seem quite fair to me. What is your opinion on this situation?"

His response: "You cannot divide up the chips and give them to the players, or the players at that table would have an advantage on the rest of the field. No one will take your chips in the middle of a tournament unless something has happened like a medical emergency where they know you are not going to be able to come back."

nianticcardplayer · #20 (**permalink**) 11-09-2005, 06:09 PM

Here's what we did in a home game we had a few weeks back.

Started with two tables got to the final table eight players, and one of the players who was on call for the weekend at the Local Hospital (he is a technician in the nuclear medicine department) got called away from the game, and he knew he would not be back. He was in third chip wise and asked if he could sell his stack to player who had been knocked out. My neighbor asked everyone playing if he could sell the stack, everyone understood what was going and it really stunk that he was called away and we agreed to let him sell the stack.

My neighbor (i.e. tournament director) then stated before the sale took place that to keep it fair amongst the remaining players the person buying the stack had to agree to basically become the small stack at the table. What he did was count the players chips and then add chips to everyone else to put this person at the bottom of the chip count. I know alot of people are going to go crazy about this but it was a friendly home game with the same group of people that have been playing together for the last three years basically.

Its your game I would ask why the guy has to leave after an hour. There may be a legitamate reason for it.