Ruling on annouce raise vs wrong amount of chips put into pot
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Ruling on annouce raise vs wrong amount of chips put into pot
Re SteveA posting, where he annouce a raise of 150 but put 200 into pot instead, what is correct ruling on that? Should verbal announcement come first or amount of chips put into pot?
I didn't want to hijack the other thread by posting there.
Re: Ruling on annouce raise vs wrong amount of chips put into pot
If you announce 150 and then put in 200, you need to take back the 50. If you left them in there it would be a string bet, or at least the equivalent of one.
What would happen if you announced a raise of 150, waited till someone moved towards their chips and then pushed all in? Would it stand? I don't think so for a second.
Re: Ruling on annouce raise vs wrong amount of chips put into pot
According to Robert (rule 8.)
A verbal statement denotes your action and is binding. If in turn you verbally declare a fold, check, bet, call, or raise, you are forced to take that action.
thus a declare of raise of 150 is binding.. period.. end of story...
the only way it would not be a bet if it was not a legal bet (ie. blind 100 and a bet is anounced of 50), other wise it is a bet.
This from a person who plays a lot of craps.. tell a dealer a bet.. and it is a bet....
Ken
Re: Ruling on annouce raise vs wrong amount of chips put into pot
If he put in $200 he should be getting $50 back. Seen it happen before, that's the reason the dealer usually counts your bet. Of course in most home games we don't have professional dealers, but you should always be sure of what you are putting into the pot.
Re: Ruling on annouce raise vs wrong amount of chips put into pot
I think you are right dad; if SteveA announced a specific amount then he can only bet that amount and anything else would be similar to a string bet and should not be allowed. Of course in most home games you are often in the company of friends so I can see why it may not be enforced, but if going by the rules I would think the extra 50 would have to be returned.
Re: Ruling on annouce raise vs wrong amount of chips put into pot
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Originally Posted by smitty
However..... I believe you can just announce "Raise" and you can keep putting chips into the pot with several motions.
If you do not announce "raise" then the bet must come in one forward motion and you cannot return to your stack for more chips.
You are correct. If all one says is "raise" then he could put in any legal amount.
That is why I usually first anounce "raise" then I say "raise of XXX" this way if I count out the wrong amount I get it back.
Mind you I learned this the hard way
Re: Ruling on annouce raise vs wrong amount of chips put into pot
Another post supporting the "verbal" declaration stands - not what was physically put in.
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Re: Ruling on annouce raise vs wrong amount of chips put into pot
Another gotcha (at least in formal games) is the rule whereby your bet stands even if you do not declare a raise. IE; it takes $50 to call and you throw in a $500 chip with no declaration.
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