[BPTDirector]

Thanks for the quick replies, the dead button method seems much easier than what I've been doing, probably going to go with that.

Thanks again;
Jim

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by smoore

My personal record is four I busted three of those players.

Curses! My best is three.

I actually used the fwd rule in the last cash game I had. Even got some "missed blind" buttons for those bathroom and smoke breaks. Everyone got a kick out of them, so we'll probably keep doing that.

But we always use the dead button rule in my tourneys.

[JM]

Originally Posted by BPTDirector

I did it like that for awhile, it just seems unfair when sombody gets to skip the small blind in later rounds when blind levels are at say 600/1200 -

BPTDirector

Like spacemonkey said, its only the table that's short the sb, but since its always behind the bb, its not missed. The advantage in this situation though is the bb has no heat put on him by the sb raising him to steal the blinds. I think more often than not, the bb just takes his bet back when the sb is dead.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Yeah, you've gotta go with the Dead Button Rule in tourneys. I think the advantage of someone getting the button twice (or more) is outweighed by the chance of someone being able to skip a big blind. This only seems to become an issue toward the end of tournaments when blinds are high and tables are shorthanded. It's not fair if someone could potentially get blinded out the next hand, but they get a reprieve because of another player going out.

It's a little confusing at first, but now I find my guys are usually quick to jump on a new guy who argues for a moving button.

[JM]

You know you got it right when you end up with the big blind opposite the button when you get down to heads up.

[R Deckard]

Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff

Yeah, you've gotta go with the Dead Button Rule in tourneys. I think the advantage of someone getting the button twice (or more) is outweighed by the chance of someone being able to skip a big blind. This only seems to become an issue toward the end of tournaments when blinds are high and tables are shorthanded. It's not fair if someone could potentially get blinded out the next hand, but they get a reprieve because of another player going out.

It's a little confusing at first, but now I find my guys are usually quick to jump on a new guy who argues for a moving button.

How does the Moving Button allow someone to skip a blind? With the Moving Button, everyone always will pay one Big and one Small per round, no? You just may have a couple Big Blinds or a couple of Smalls per pot sometimes. Am I missing something? Please enlighten me if so.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Originally Posted by R Deckard

How does the Moving Button allow someone to skip a blind? With the Moving Button, everyone always will pay one Big and one Small per round, no? You just may have a couple Big Blinds or a couple of Smalls per pot sometimes. Am I'm missing something? Please enlighten me if so.

Getting my Moving Buttons mixed up. Under Robert's, you're correct. It just brings in the possiblility of having the button also posting a big blind or multiple big blinds. When I said Moving Button, I meant as I have seen in other places where the button moves to the next active pleyer and the blinds also move. So if you were UTG in a hand where the BB busts out, the SB would be the next button and you would skip the BB and be the SB for the next hand.
That's the situation I don't like, where a player gets to skip a blind.

[R Deckard]

So now, the question is: what is the advantage of a Dead Button over the Robert's Moving Button in small home tourneys? Bueller?
(gads, we are such geeks, discussing dead and moving buttons)

[Himewad]

We had this blind-skipping situation in a tournament I played in just last night. The big blind was knocked out on the hand. What SHOULD have happened is this: the big blind moves as normal to the next player, the small blind is skipped (because there is no player there to post it), and the previous small blind is the new dealer. On the next hand, both blinds move as normal to the next players, and the dealer would remain the same (again because the player in that position busted out).

What they ACTUALLY did was this: the two players to the left of the dealer both posted big blinds! This was followed by a normal small and big blind posted the next hand, but what pi$$ed me off was that the guy who posted the first big blind got away without ever having to post a small blind! I brought it up at the table, but no one there seemed to be familiar with the rules. This particular tournament never burns cards, either, so I'm not surprised that no one cared.

[Himewad]

[add-on from previous post]

I know it depends on whether you're using a dead button v. moving button, but I have always found the moving button more confusing than the dead button, and no one said that we were using a moving button in this tournament.

I see the benefit to a single player using the dead button rule (from acting last on more than one hand), but I think it saves a lot of headaches, and it keeps the blinds from moving too fast around the table, which can be dangerous in tournament play.