Home game etiquette question

[bta15]

So I'm playing four handed at a weekly $.25/50 NL game.

I get into a hand with one LAG and one Nit. I check raise turn with top two in a spot where I was pretty sure nit has overpair. Both players tank and fold. Nit shows over pair and LAG shows flopped two pair top and bottom. I muck my cards and quitely rake the pot.

The nit goes off on me telling me that it is a breach of etiquette to not show my hand. He feels that it is a friendly type game where I essentially owe it to the other players.

I politely tell him that I feel that it's in my best interest to not show. It gives away too much information regarding bet sizing and could possibly affirm physical tells.

He replies that it is a friendly game, we are all here to have fun, etc. I think it was just sour grapes cuz he thought his overpair was good and couldn't live with the possibility of being bluffed.

In the past the player has berated others on their bet sizing when they show winners and has also been offended when others bluff him out of pots and show.

I do not even feel remotely obligated to show or tell him what I had? Am I in the wrong?

[BGinGA]

I'd be obliged to show him a bluff next time, if you think it will put him on tilt. If not showing does the same, go for it. Or just tell him you had "pocket aces, like usual".

You owe him nothing. If he wants to see your cards, he can pay for the privilege. His bad attitude would only put a target on his psyche; certainly wouldn't get any favors. And I'd probably point out that it's not very conducive to a friendly game.

[Sea Vulture]

The only breach of etiquette was his complaining.

I have uninvited players whom, I feel, are bad for the vibe at games. On the other hand, use the bitching as info knowing that it can put him on tilt. There is no obligation to show cards if there is no showdown.

[Mojo1312]

"I didn't show because you and I had the same hand."

[wafflestomper]

No need to show. Why bet money if you are just playing a friendly game where everyone is going to show their hand anyway?

I would definitely do anything that would make him feel like he made a bad decision. Show a bluff or show when he laid down an overpair to your TPTK. Other than that, I'd just keep responding to "What did you have?" with "The winning hand."

[umbkcshah]

Originally Posted by wafflestomper

Other than that, I'd just keep responding to "What did you have?" with "The winning hand."

I think I'd prefer 'No callers.' *with a shrug

However, I admit that I'm willing to show with my friends, but it is a very low stakes game and bluffing people in a $2max raise is pretty fun. For higher stakes, only if I think it's to my advantage.

[bta15]

This isn't my game, the nit hosts it at his brother in laws place.

He regularly berates players for doing things that aren't to his likings such as turning over your hand at showdown but not announcing ur holdings or tanking while thinking about bet or raise sizes.

Easy solution is to not play, but there are a few soft spots in the game and it is generally a fun time.

[jbutler16]

i think whether your behavior is appropriate is determined by your motives for playing the game. if you're there to have fun and it's not fun to you to show your cards when it's not required, do whatever you want and respond however you want. if you're there to make money (not too likely at a .25/.50 game, but sometimes those games can be more lucrative than the stakes would typically indicate), then you might want to consider acquiescing to the demands of the fish. keeping them happy in the game can keep them donating.

[Jeff]

Your decision, and if he doesn't pay, you are not obligated by any standard.

How many people play with a "show one show all" rule? Or do you allow someone to show only one person?

[albie]

Show one, show all. It's too colludey feeling otherwise.