[Sniper2075]

Just had a question for the stud players out there. I've never played Stud with an ante outside of online cash games. My question is what does everyone do in there home games. Blinds are easy for hold'em games but how do you handle the ante for stud games?

My current game I'm playing in they do a dealer calls it and the dealer posts a $2 ante no matter the game. No blinds but the dealers ante and we play mostly Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi/Low, and Stud.

I'm thinking about trying to start another game with a difrent format. It will be a set rotation of games that we will play so many hands then swich games. I would like to do real antes but I'm not sure if I can without adding a 5cent chip.

What should the stakes be for a 25cent ante stud game, what should the forced bring in should be?

Thanks in advance

[_GUN_]

Originally Posted by Sniper2075

What should the stakes be for a 25cent ante stud game, what should the forced bring in should be?

P* has:

$3/6, .25 ante
$2/4, .25 ante
$1/2, .10 ante
$0.50/1, .05 ante

edit*

in the $1/2 game, the bring in is .50..for the $3/6 game, the bring in is $1

[ipgyst]

Originally Posted by Sniper2075

Just had a question for the stud players out there. I've never played Stud with an ante outside of online cash games. My question is what does everyone do in there home games. Blinds are easy for hold'em games but how do you handle the ante for stud games?

My current game I'm playing in they do a dealer calls it and the dealer posts a $2 ante no matter the game. No blinds but the dealers ante and we play mostly Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi/Low, and Stud.

I'm thinking about trying to start another game with a difrent format. It will be a set rotation of games that we will play so many hands then swich games. I would like to do real antes but I'm not sure if I can without adding a 5cent chip.

What should the stakes be for a 25cent ante stud game, what should the forced bring in should be?

Thanks in advance

In my home stud games, everybody antes. If you have 8 players and everybody deals equally, a $2 dealer ante is the exact same thing as a $.25 everybody ante.

In this year's WSOP 50K HORSE, the bring-in and the ante were generally the same amount (or really close). Completion was 3x to 4x the bring-in, mostly 4x, so in a .25 ante / .25 bring-in, I'd play with $1/$2 limits, which are nice round numbers. If those limits are too high, you could use the same ante and bring-in structure, but lower the limits to $.50/$1 without much difficulty.

[abby99]

Originally Posted by _GUN_

P* has:

$3/6, .25 ante
$2/4, .25 ante
$1/2, .10 ante
$0.50/1, .05 ante

bring in should be the lower bet, so in a $3/6 game, the bring in should be $3

The completion is equal to the lower bet ($3 in a $3/6 limit game). The forced bring-in is approximately 1/4 - 1/3 of the lower bet.

[_GUN_]

I typed that wrong, fixed the OP.... on P*, they have the bring in as 1/2 of the lower bet for $1/2 (.50), for the $3/6 game, the bring in is $1 for 1/3 of the lower bet.

[Harlequin011]

Originally Posted by Sniper2075

What should the stakes be for a 25cent ante stud game, what should the forced bring in should be?

Thanks in advance

What is your spread or limit? For a .25 ante I'd say anywhere between .25-1.00 bring in.

[Buzzerbeater]

When we play stud, we rotate a button or the deck. The dealer antes a quarter for the table. Bring in is a quarter, with a $1 complete and a 1-2 betting structure.

[abby99]

Originally Posted by _GUN_

I typed that wrong, fixed the OP.... on P*, they have the bring in as 1/2 of the lower bet for $1/2 (.50), for the $3/6 game, the bring in is $1 for 1/3 of the lower bet.

Ah, I hate it when I do that.

Additional thought about antes: Although the relationship between the bring-in bet and the small bet is fairly consistent among different structures, the size of the ante is not. Smaller antes are player-friendly and allow for discriminating play. Larger antes beef up the initial pot, which encourages more aggressive play. Set your antes accordingly. Note that the WSOP structure has relatively high antes, which encourages action even in the early rounds and makes pots worth stealing, and which I think is more common in tournament structures than in cash structures.

If the desired ante requires too small a chip, the dealer can ante for the table, as was done in the first round of the WSOP (IIRC).

[yeltzen]

I think a no ante spread-limit game is much easier for your home game. You don't have to make sure everyone is being honest.

[jdunford]

Lately we've been playing HORSE cash games (1 orbit of each) after NLHE tourneys. We have 5¢ chips in play that only get used in the stud-type games. For (limit) Hold'em and Omaha-8, it's 50¢/$1 (i.e. 25¢ small blind); for the stud games, it's 5¢ ante, 10¢ bring-in, 25¢/50¢, with $1 bets on the river - although doubling the bet on the river may not be your style. I like it as a house rule because it makes bluffing on the river possible, rather than always getting your > 10:1 bets called. Either way, these stakes work out to producing roughly the same sized average pots for both community (HO) and stud-type (RSE) games.

Here's a .PDF of the summary for our stud games:
http://individual.utoronto.ca/jdunford/Samurai_Stud.pdf

There's been some talk of having the dealer post the ante for everyone (rounded to 50¢ for a full 8-player table; 25¢ for 6 or fewer players) and force the bring-in to complete the bet at 25¢ to avoid having 5¢ chips... but so far, we've played with real antes using a non-denom chip representing 5¢. It's the dealer's responsibility to count the antes (and yell at lazy players) before dealing. Besides, there's no shortage of chips at imthatguy's and my games!