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Old 05-10-2007, 09:46 AM
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Re: What Would You Do???

Phil Gordon, in his Little Green Book, offers an interesting take on chopping in a situation like this (heads up). Both players get second place money and the remainder would be divided according to chipstacks.

In your case, each player gets $130 as a base chop. You're chopping at 50 to 35, so you'd come in at $56 of the $80, he'd get $24.

Obviously if you're the chip leader and you have to propose the chop, you might not be able to get such terms. Chops like this work better when it's the underdog that floats the deal. I doubt your lead was enough to make him take a deal other than an even chop, especially if he knew you were under a deadline to get dad's car back in the driveway.
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Re: What Would You Do???

As others have said, I would only chop if I was getting the best of it.
Why did your dad need his car at 11:30 anyway?
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Re: What Would You Do???

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Its Head's Up. You're the Chip Leader. Tournament Started at 7:00. 1st is $210 Second is $130. Would you Play it out and Try to win the extra 80 dollars or would you just accept the Chop and take the $170??
Heck no.

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It's only 40 either way. Besides, the way I play, this thing is going to be figured out very quickly.
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Re: What Would You Do???

ICM says your current tournament equity is about $177
http://www.poker-tools-online.com/icm.html

Taking the chop for $170 sounds fine.
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...In your case, each player gets $130 as a base chop. You're chopping at 50 to 35, so you'd come in at $56 of the $80, he'd get $24.
Chip leader has 59% of chips in play (85k/50k) so a chop of the $80 based on chips would be $47 to $33. If I'm chipleader, I'm laughing at any offer that only gets me $14 more (4%) than 2nd place...PLAY ON I SAY!!

If it was late and the other player was tired or just ready to stop playing, I would counter offer $20 more than the 2nd place prize.
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Re: What Would You Do???

Firstly - There is no way the chipstacks are correct.

A T7000 with 19 players, puts a total of 133,000 in play.

Secondly - the blinds total T30,000 each hand - that is like 23% of the toal chips in play.

So - a chop is a good idea. This is crapshoot central at this point. Try to get a good deal, but unless your chip lead is huge, I doubt you'll get it. I don't see how this isn't an all-in in the next couple of hands......
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Re: What Would You Do???

Unless the chip leader has an overwhelming advantage, I'd just end up chopping.
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Re: What Would You Do???

With blinds that high, I'd say chop it. Usually at the end of tournaments, if the blinds are that high, it's just a luckfest. Your chiplead can disappear in one unlucky hand, and then you're stuck with less money.

Just propose a by-the-chips chop with the total money left in the pot.
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Re: What Would You Do???

You're leaving out something fairly important:

Is the other player better than you?
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Oops, that actually isn't so important here because of how many BB's each player has. Normally it should be a factor though.
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