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Old 11-10-2006, 12:34 AM
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How do you assign Points in your home game?

I did a bit of searching around and found a couple things, but I'm very interested in how others, if they even assign points, do it? I'm just starting the 3rd year of my monthly home game -- ordered bracelts and everything the the winners of year 2. Anyway, just looking for some thoughts/ideas -- I'm not unhappy, just interested in what you do.

Here's what I do:
1st = 100 pts
2nd = 80 pts
3rd = 60 pts
4th = 40 pts
5th = 20 pts
6th - 10th or 11th (final table) get 10 pts.
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:21 AM
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Re: How do you assign Points in your home game?

We have league play and after several trials we found this worked best for us. Say 23 players showed. Last place would get 1 point while first received 23. The top 5 get bonus points, 1st - 3, 2nd - 2, 3rd - 1, 4th - 1 and 5th -1.We also use bounty chips with each chip won receiving 1 point Last tournaments top 3 have sniper targets with 1 point awarded for each target.
We have two Double Double Down nights per season where the $20 buy in doubles to $40 and bountys go from $5 to $10. Pay Outs are doubled along with the points.
One point seating night where seats are assigned by point standings and one rebuy night.
We just finished our 12 week season with the top 10 seperated by 70 points and the top 5 by only 29.
Hope this gives you some ideas, I know it kept our players interested.
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Old 11-10-2006, 02:48 AM
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Re: How do you assign Points in your home game?

We keep it simple in our home league.Depending on how many show up we award 2 points per player.For example if we have 10 players you will get 20 points for a win 18 for second 16 for third and so on,if only 8 show up winner gets 16 second 14 etc.
A change we added this year was to award 2 points to anyone who can't make it so coming last is pretty much the same as not showing up apart from being $20 down.
At the end of each 6 month season points are converted into chips for the grand final,100 in chips for each point scored which means a great high stack tournament with average stacks of 40k.Also at the grand final everyone brings a bottle of liqour as their bounty,last season I only finished third but picked up 2 bottles of whisky a bottle of vodka and a bottle of Captain Morgan.
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Re: How do you assign Points in your home game?

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Also at the grand final everyone brings a bottle of liqour as their bounty,last season I only finished third but picked up 2 bottles of whisky a bottle of vodka and a bottle of Captain Morgan.
What a cool idea.
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:17 AM
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Re: How do you assign Points in your home game?

In my league a player gets 2 points for playing, 1 point for each player they finish above and the top 3 get 5, 3 & 1 bonus points (respectivly). This past year was my first with this system and it worked really well. No one ran away with the point lead just because they made all the games. It gave everyone a chance and even let some players start later in the season and still be able to have a shot at the TOC game.

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Old 11-10-2006, 07:33 AM
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Re: How do you assign Points in your home game?

I use the CT Thursday night tourney points system. I think this is right from memory, but it's SQRT(# of players)/SQRT(finish) and then it's scaled so that last place always gets 5 points. I like it and have settled on it after tweaking my points system every season until last when I used this. We're on season 5. I like this one because it sets up an exponential curve that rewards winning and high finishes, but also benefits the guys that play in most of the games. What I really want in my final tourney is my regulars that play a lot, but with this system it is possible to make up a lot of ground with a few wins. Especially wins in bigger games.
Your final position in the top 9 determines your buy-in for the Invitational at the end of the year, so even though it usually comes down to a race between my 11-12 regulars, the points position still matters.
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:34 AM
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Re: How do you assign Points in your home game?

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This how we are going to score our 2006 league...

Final Table (8 players) -

1st 10 + (No. of players / 5)
2nd 8 + (No. of players / 5)
3rd 6 + (No. of players / 5)
4th 5 + (No. of players / 5)
5th 4 + (No. of players / 5)
6th 3 + (No. of players / 5)
7th 2 + (No. of players / 5)
8th 1 + (No. of players / 5)

every other player 2 pts

This would mean that the winner of a 20 player tourney would get 14 points, whereas the winner of a 40 player tourney would get 18 points.

I will be using some variation of the above point system because it addresses many of my concerns regarding league point systems.

I truly dislike the reverse point system because it allows lower finishes in games with bigger turnouts to have as many or more points as 1st place in games with not as many players. For example, In season 1 I had a tourney with 14 players and a tourney with 10 players and using the reverse point system, 5th place in the 14 player game got the same points as 1st place in the 10 player game. Although I think that a player should be rewarded for getting through more players, I think the example I used shows how the reverse point system can devalue 1st place.

For me a point system should include a calculation where how many players in a particular tournament are factored in BUT not to the extent where lower finishing positions are easily being awarded more points than 1st place in other tournaments. I think the system quoted above (or some variation of it) addresses my concerns with this issue properly. I do understand that many use the reverse point system and it works great for them, but I'm pleased to being on the road to developing the type of point system that I've been in search of.

I am more comfortable with the inequity of the top spot not being awarded "enough" points for going through more players than I am with the inequity of lower finishing positions from larger tourneys being awarded more points than the top spot in other tournaments. I'm sure the variance isn't as bad using a logarithm, but the reverse point system can have an unfair variance (IMO) for tourneys with different entrant numbers.

I also considered that I do not want a huge variance of "available points" from one game to another because if a player is absent from a game that had a bigger turnout than usual, they are unfairly (IMO) penalized as they will not get the opportunity to ever earn that many points in any other tourney. Using the reverse point system, a player could earn 12 points for finishing 1st in a 12 player tourney...but if you miss that game and all the other games end up with turnouts of 7,8 and 9 players...that player missing the 12 player game would never have the opportunity to earn that many points in another game. And since absences can not always be predicted (and are random), I want a system that doesn't place too much weight on turnout as I don't want the swing of a "big tournament" in my point calculation...especially for any player that may not have been able to make that big tournament.

Lastly, I want a system that every player can take the provided league point figures and easily work backwards and understand where each number comes from. I don't want to just give out a number from a logarithm that people would have to just trust is right...I want to empower my players (LOL) so that they understand every factor that goes into calculating their points.

My 18 cents.

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Re: How do you assign Points in your home game?

41 player league. Points as follows:

1 - 41 + 5 for FT + 5 for Win
2 - 40 + 5 for FT
3 - 39 + 5 for FT
4 - 38 + 5 for FT
5 - 37 + 5 for FT
6 - 36 + 5 for FT
7 - 35 + 5 for FT
8 - 34 + 5 for FT
9 - 33 + 5 for FT
10 - 32
11 - 31
12 - 30

and so on.....
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Spacemean -- ahhh, I sound like a nob here, but what's SQRT stand for?
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BTW, thank you to everyone who has posted -- this has been VERY informative and useful. Keep 'em coming!
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