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Old 04-01-2006, 02:16 PM
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A hand from last night's home game:

- 3 limpers
- flop: KK5 rainbow
- everyone checks
- turn: 5
- SB bets 1/2 pot
- BB raises 3x the bet
- UTG says something along the lines of: "has everyone got an ace" (implying it will be a split pot) and calls
- SB folds
- river: X
- BB goes all in
- UTG calls and shows K5 - he flopped a full house

I was in the small blind with an Ace.

What do you call a guy that says stuff like this? Or what do you call this type of play?

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Re: Table Talk

Hes still in the hand...

I'd chalk this up to regular coffee-housing.
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Re: Table Talk

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A hand from last night's home game:
What do you call a guy that says stuff like this?
Annoying.

People at my college poker club always say stuff about their hand when they aren't in it. "Crap I folded XX" "I would have had a straight" and so on. Now that is fine after the hand is done, but not acceptable during the hand. As TD I have been trying to get it in their heads that they should not do that but I may have to start handing out penalties for it.
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Re: Table Talk

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Annoying.

People at my college poker club always say stuff about their hand when they aren't in it. "Crap I folded XX" "I would have had a straight" and so on. Now that is fine after the hand is done, but not acceptable during the hand. As TD I have been trying to get it in their heads that they should not do that but I may have to start handing out penalties for it.
It is completely unacceptable when they aren't in the hand. But this guy was still in the hand. If you are talking and still in the hand, I think it is part of the psychology of the game when it is something that general. As long as he isn't trying to specifically call out what the SB might be holding while there are others in the pot besides just himself. I would have taken his words as a tell (and they were), you know - the ol' feign weakness when you are really strong...
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Old 04-01-2006, 11:36 PM
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Re: Table Talk

I agree with krw... he's in the pot, and he's trying to get information regarding the other hands (not that he needs it at the moment -- in fact, he might have cost himself some money with his comment, because the small blind might have stayed in if he stays quiet).

I also give him the benefit of the doubt due to when he made his comment... if he said that at the showdown, before turning over his cards, I'd have a bigger problem than him talking during the hand.

To me, there's no difference between what he did and any other attempts to get info.
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What do you call a guy that says stuff like this? Or what do you call this type of play?

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I call that a bluff....or bluffing/deception technique I would say....Perfectly legal in this context-


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Re: Table Talk

Nothing wrong with it in my opinion, just as said earlier, all part of deception. Trying to lull other folks into the false sense that no one has that king, and it worked.
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Re: Table Talk

Yup, what the two previous posters said.

While I never use this technique myself, it reminds me of the movie Rounders in which Matt Damon remarks how he does not think KGB has the spades, implying his hand can be beaten by a flush when in fact he had a boat.
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I tend to talk a lot at free tourneys and home games, I never say stuff like "oh i folded the flush" until after the hand is over. But if I'm not in the hand I still say stuff like "if you have a 9 or higher go all in" or other just smart A** stuff for a laugh. Was funny last week because at a free bar tourney where most everyone knows eachother, this guy who was a newcomer got really mad at me for this and says "If you don't shut up when your not in the hand i'm going to start telling everyone your tells, because i've already spoted 6 of em" (i had only been at that table for 2 hands both in the blind and had folded both) so I said "well I would love to hear them because the only one I know that i've shown is that I fold when I don't have a hand" everyone got a good laugh out of that and he shut up for the rest of the game.
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Re: Table Talk

If it was headsup, talking about the hand you're in is fine. If there's 2+ other people in the hand, you really shouldn't be talking.
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