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Old 02-26-2006, 08:18 PM
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I am so great!!!

Well sort of, I figured this was the best spot to brag a little. Just finished my third week at one of the local bar tourneys (best one I can find because all of the good people go there so its not an all in cluster****). Well out of three weeks and 50-60 people there each time I finshed like 30th first week and 4th last and 3rd this week. I never really expceded to place so im pumped up.


side note on this: is it ok to look at the bottom card if the person is one of those shufflers that likes to show it. I argued that its ok because everyone but the dealer can see it and they are the ones that never learned how to shuffle so its fair, but most people said its bad edicate. Any comments ?
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Old 02-26-2006, 08:48 PM
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Re: I am so great!!!

Congrats on the improving finishes. On the sidenote question, if the dealer is showing the card, it's hard not to look, but if you're worried about the ethics, just make sure that everyone at the table is aware of the card. Better yet, bring in some plastic cut cards and you can remedy the situation cheaply and quickly.
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Old 02-26-2006, 09:01 PM
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Re: I am so great!!!

they do use cut cards, but you know how some people cut the deck and then tip it sideways to position themselves to shuffle, and in doing so show you the bottom of each cut. My thought on it was I took the time to learn how to shuffle properly so if they dont its their loss
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Old 02-26-2006, 10:38 PM
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Re: I am so great!!!

If they are using cut cards on the bottom, there shouldn't be any tipping needed for positioning that would allow you to see the bottom card.
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Old 02-27-2006, 07:05 AM
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well let me just put it this way, one person who ranked top for a couple of weeks (not because she is good but she is widely regarded as the luckiest person on the planet) is the worst shuffler I have ever seen. I counted the number of times her cards "feathered" into eachother on a shuffle and once I saw 3 ya thats right the cards only interlaced in three different spots (as opposed to the perfect shuffle where they interlace 21 times if that makes sense). She is the worst but most people split the deck and parade the bottom to you. After I got yelled at and told that you can be booted for looking I have started staring at the ceiling and wall during the shuffle because its almost impossible to not look. I figure some people have it out for me because I pissed a lot of people off when I just came in one day and started placing.
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Re: I am so great!!!

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After I got yelled at and told that you can be booted for looking...
That's just ridiculous. It doesn't take all that much effort to shuffle without showing the bottom card to the world, but either way it makes more sense to yell at the shuffler than at the person who sees the bottom card.

Unless you were out of your seat, or lying on the floor, or using a mirror on a long stick to see it of course
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Another fun twist to the story, my friend was at the table with the leader (the one that sucks but is crazy lucky, if I place 2 more weeks in a row and she doesn't I'll take first) and apparently she was ripping on me because she referred to me as "the kid who will f****** call anything" even though I only saw about 10 flops the entire tourney and took most of them. Well my friend was about 4x stacked to her (she was major short stack because of a previous hand with me ) and he looks at her and says "I really don't think the short stacks should be telling the big stacks how to play". He said she looked like she was going to cry and shut up for the rest of her time at the table.
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Re: I am so great!!!

It's like when certain "pros" go out and whine about how the amateur who knocked them out doesn't know how to play. If they didn't know how to play, how did they get to the final table?
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Re: I am so great!!!

congrats, and with bar poker...looking at the bottom card is nothing more than information that your using, that nobody else is.
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Old 02-28-2006, 10:32 PM
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So I was at another of the local bar tourneys and I got seated at a table with the guy who originally started complaining about it. When someone next to me started shuffling he was like "watch out that guy likes to cheat and watch the bottom card" and two or three people at the table said (at the same time) "so do I" I nearly started laughing at his face.
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