[chipNAchair]

Originally Posted by jdunford

OK, I think I'll say that, officially, these are the 11 mandatory colours:

• red
• dk green
• black
• lavender (or Laker if you really want)
• white
• blue
• yellow
• charcoal (acts a grey or can substitute for black)
• pink
• chocolate
• Sherbet Green ('cause there's an army dedicated to this chip)

The 12th chip is up to you... could be Orange, could be Almond, could be Sky Blue (?), could be anther purple (Laker or regular, to go with the Lavender), ...
We'll vote on it later, when we've got much of the rest of the set complete.

And I propose to go a step further and start doing this chip-by-chip. There seem to be a lot of mock-ups around here with the following chips. Are we decided on these, or does somebody have a better option?



I know it might seem weird to start with the "auxiliary" chips, but these seem to be (nearly) shoe-ins, and unless somebody can come up with better versions, we'd might as well cement them in so we can focus on the progression of the other colours.

My personal comments:

As much as I like the "quarter pies", in a set like this, they only work if they're sort of monotone... otherwise it's hard to tell what colour it's supposed to be, and might not be versatile enough for some sets... so I propose they get used for the chocolate, which has become somewhat of an icon for this project since its inception, and the pink chip, since it's just wicked-cool imho and could easily work as a fractional, a snapper, a $500, a $5000, ... basically would fit in nicely anywhere! And the Sherbet 3-moon was already requested by a member of the "mixed greens nation", so I figure, if it's unanimous, we'd might as well finalize the deal.
:sigh:

Comments? Alternatives?

*EDIT* Perhaps I should say "penciled in", as we can always make some final tweaks at the end, if something doesn't quite work... But these chips seem nearly unanimous; so much so, that I don't want to bother with a poll.

I really think that we're headed in the right direction here. I'd go along with the chips that you've listed as I think that each would be unique in one way or another. I agree also that those 3 chips are pretty much "penciled" in at this point to...go with it I say! Just curious but for #12 how about a 1/4 pie orange/arc yellow?

[MeridianFC]

It seems to me there's a pretty strong voice for both Pink and Orange (neither of which I think I'll need FWIW). I like the Pink that's been put forward but I will say again if it was made Pink Quarter Pie (Some) Red it could do double duty as a traditional Red or Pink chip. Two for the spot of one. I can see the argument that that might make it less of the freaky Pink thing that folks usually go for.

As far as the Orange, I think folks should give a lot of thought to whether they want Arc Yellow (really its bright Orange) as a spot color. I love the idea of the two tone chips but those colors seem really close, at least in the pictures I've seen.

That said those with strong desire in this area should make their voice heard.

The White 4T18 Dark Blue/White/Other Blue (you know the one) seems pretty popular, at least as far as its appearance in mock ups.

As far as the three chips put forward as probables, outside of being a big booster for one of them, an earlier appreciater of the other, and an admirer of the third, I like that they are relatively simple and could easily be plugged into many different kinds of sets. Generally I don't like it if all of the chips in a set up have "complicated" (3 color, alternating, small " insert, triple or double pattern) spots. Variety and all that.

I know 8V is not available, which is frustrating, but I note that 614 is pretty close, having pretty much the same side stack profile, which is why I've been using it on the Charcoal chip, and given the earlier acutal pictures I think I can now get behind, certainly as the Charcoal 6A14 Almond/Orange that someone else put forward. At present I prefer it to the Black options, though Black w/ Hot Pink/Blood Red might tweak my interest and it was a poll leader.

[MetalSlug3]

Originally Posted by beekeeper

A second try--if you click on it it will enlarge.

I really like beekeeper's Lavender 3 Moon chip. If we do in fact have a Sherbert Green 3 Moon chip in the set, it would be nice if we had one more 3 Moon chip it could tie in with, and so far beekeeper's Lavender 3 Moon with Laker Purple spots is the nicest I've seen (just my opinion).

[mizuchaud]

I think I pointed out the closeness of arc yellow to W orange before, but the comment was that if someone wanted to do a 1/4 pie with arc yellow as one of the fills it would be all right.
I thought it was a mistake, but the masses voted it in.

[jdunford]

Originally Posted by daffyd

Solid. I hope this one is close to being a lock too, but it may need a vote:

Ya, that's the next chip I was going to mention... almost included it with the other 3.
Anybody have objections to this white?
Seems to be the most popular, and "those who like it like it a lot!"
(anybody know that jingle? I'm afraid it might be a canuck thing... oh well)
Those spots work well, and it's one of the few base colours we can be confident will work with the "body fill". If the spots end up being too complicated in the progression (though I doubt this will be an issue), we could switch it to a 4a14 later on ("tweaking" stage).

Originally Posted by daffyd

Thanks for keeping this moving. We should probably give people a little time to comment while individual ideas are floated so nobody feels railroaded. I suspect not everyone can check chiptalk 30 times a day (it's cold out and I'm on vacation!)

You're welcome... and I know what you mean! For me, I view this thread nearly every time there's a post. Seems like months ago that the Round #1 voting ended... but I have to take a breath and realize that others might need a little more time.

Originally Posted by MeridianFC

... I like that they are relatively simple and could easily be plugged into many different kinds of sets. Generally I don't like it if all of the chips in a set up have "complicated" (3 color, alternating, small " insert, triple or double pattern) spots. Variety and all that.

I have to agree wholeheartedly with this. That's what I was thinking, and fixing these 3 chips frees up a lot of the more intricate spot patterns for the other 8 "mandatory" chips (like the white, above).

For example, consider using that white as a $1, with the pink quarter-pie as a fractional, or even as a "snapper". Lots of contrast both in colour and spot pattern! Or, alternate between big and small spots by using the 3-moon Sherbet as T25, a complicated black or charcoal as T100, the pink as a $500, a more intricate (yellow? white? almond? orange?) $1000, and the chocolate as a $5000...
...Mmmmm... Cotton-candy and chocolate-mud pie...

Originally Posted by MeridianFC

I know 8V is not available, which is frustrating, but I note that 614 is pretty close, having pretty much the same side stack profile, which is why I've been using it on the Charcoal chip, and given the earlier acutal pictures I think I can now get behind, certainly as the Charcoal 6A14 Almond/Orange that someone else put forward.

Now that one might need a vote, as I'm particular to the Charcoal with Mauve/Peach(/Plum, as a 3T18 )... Although the Charcoal with Almond/Orange
might grow on me.

[MeridianFC]

Originally Posted by jdunford

Although the Charcoal with Almond/Orange
might grow on me.

Think about it Think about it Think about it

As far as the White chip, I'm down. I've even be toying with maybe making that my 5K.

[beekeeper]

I have no objection to the white. I'm planning a cash set, and I'd like to use blue as my $1 anyway.

[jdunford]

Too much talk...




Went for a higher-contrast orange (although I'm afraid it's too similar to the "Desert Palms $5,000" from TheChipRoom (also made by BCC). Oh, and since Charcoal is now a "mandatory colour", separate from the black category, that only leaves 2 Black pairs to choose from, which is a little bit restrictive. I'm going to promote the next best as voted in Round #1 to give us a few more Black options (one of which is shown in this mock-up). Check the OP of this thread in a few minutes.

By the way, who voted for these (dark) greens? I'm finding it nearly impossible to make something attractive from those colours... and for the record, I didn't vote for ANY of the greens that qualified (not even the "mixed greens"). Similarly for the yellow... so I'm cheating a little to show you the yellow I had in mind (and that had lots of support in the entry phase pre-Round #1).

[PhilTheThrill14]

What about these pink options - I thought that people were hot for these:

[jdunford]

Originally Posted by PhilTheThrill14

What about these pink options - I thought that people were hot for these:

I think the quarter-pie captures the same overall look (large spots; low contrast), but is more versatile. The 1" version might work well as a fractional, but what about as a "snapper" ($2.50), T500, T5000, or higher denom? The quarter-pie has a little more flair for these applications.

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OK, the OP has been updated with the Round #1 qualifiers re-organized into the 11 "mandatory" categories + 1 "other" category. Of course, your 12th chip could be from any category (not just the "other"). A a result, you'll see that I've added more Black options, since the Charcoals have all been moved to their own category. When viewing the OP, you may need to hit "refresh" on your browser to see the new version.

I haven't "locked" the proposed Pink, Chocolate, and Sherbet chips in just yet. Thought I'd wait another day or two for CTers to propose alternatives and/or objections (like Phil). In the meantime, those in agreement should include those chips in their mock-ups (or omit them, but assume they are 3 of your 12 chips and just post 9 chips). You might also do the same with the white chip mentioned above, if you'd like.