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View Poll Results: Which design should we use for our custom mold? | |
Three Palms
|    | 21 | 35.59% | |
Turtles
|    | 13 | 22.03% | |
Straight Palms and Turtles
|    | 4 | 6.78% | |
Curved Palms and Turles
|    | 21 | 35.59% |
07-18-2005, 09:09 PM
|  | Westside Irish/Mod | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The OC, son. Born and Raised. Age: 30
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Originally Posted by Murf FJohnson has a prior commitment to take care of first, and I wouldn't have anyone rush him... he is doing us all a favor here, so he shouldn't make us a priority. | Hey no worries, I admit im a little over zealous, and Ive probably been the biggest PITA on this thread,
Take your time, the longer this takes for me personally, the more cash I can set aside for these chips.
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07-21-2005, 09:17 AM
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| | | Can't stay silent any longer. While the turtles might be a little off topic, they're tolerable. The curved palms, however, are a disaster. They couldn't be any cheesier.
If some of the curved palm supporters could explain their appeal, I'm all ears. |
07-21-2005, 09:00 PM
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| | | WTF is going on here. I agree that input is needed from all those who are interested in this chip, but this is approaching ridiculous. Having studied graphic design and worked on countless design projects, I feel it is important to convey certain "rules" of graphic design. (1) Left to right, top to bottom, or clockwise. Flow should relate to how people read and comprehend. (2) Contrast not clutter (ie. using two fonts, one sarif and one sans sarif, but no more. (3) Both negative and positive space should be used to complete the design (tesselation). Now allow me to give illustration as to why some of these are terrible design ideas. The turtle and palm mold has the trees pointing against the flow of the turtles which interrupts this design element leaving the chip looking fragmented. Also the curved palms IMHO even if facing the other direction clash with the three straight palms on the inlay. The straight palm and turtle is too symmetrical and would be better served on a chip with an abstract or random print on the inlay to break the symmetry. The problem with the molds that had "Black Sands" printed on them IMHO was the fonts using and the amount of kerning used on the lettering ( letters too far apart). If we are open to new ideas lets try a sarif or script font with less kerning.
Of the designs that have been presented I am supremely confident that subjectively or objectively the "turtle" mold is the strongest graphically. Think about it like this. Strong graphic elements do not convey a copy or facsimile to the mind, they allow for imagination and interpretation. I see the "turtle" chip and I SEE the inlay as the island. (black like the sand right). There are palms on the island because thats where palm trees grow. Then I see the chip as the ocean surrounding the island. There are sea turtles in the ocean because that's where sea turtles live (except when they are laying eggs). I feel like I am looking at a graphical representation of this "fantasy" casino on this island when I look at this chip.
Also, this voting process has become that game of rock, paper, scissors where you lose and then say "best two out of three" and then you lose again and say " best three out of five". If we keep changing the parameters the scope of this design will be chaotic and disjointed. If you notice the Pharoahs and the American Beauties allowed for input while still reserving final decisions to the people who have complete vision for the project. If you want to make it completely up to the public and you only want the public who are buying chips to vote then you should run and email or PM poll. Have everyone who is buying these to send their vote with the amount of chips they promise to buy. Weight the votes by the number of chips they will buy and you end up not only solving lots of equations ( and having fun with spreadsheets) but also having a truly democratic method. I don't really think that is the answer here but it sure is headed that way. Remember that a lot of this crap was started by Duma who has pretty much done everything possible to **** all over everyone elses group buys after his went to hell in a handbasket.
To the organizers of this group buy: Do not be held hostage by trying to please everybody all of the time. This is just not possible. The job of the leader is to make difficult decisions that are in the best interest of the group as a whole not to bend and break to satisfy every little whim.  |
07-21-2005, 09:26 PM
| | In the Money | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles
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| | | Well said. And for the love of God, quote some prices. |
07-22-2005, 08:16 PM
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| | | ok Jimmy - get out of my head!!! The curved trees and turtles are in NO WAY graphically pleasing to the eye.
*sits back down and begins waiting again holding open the wallet in hopes the turtles are the rea;ized as the only good choice* |
07-22-2005, 10:43 PM
|  | Final Table | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Garwood, NJ
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| | Speaking of Turtles, here is the design change... what do you guys think?  |
07-23-2005, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BeefnCheese ok Jimmy - get out of my head!!! The curved trees and turtles are in NO WAY graphically pleasing to the eye.
*sits back down and begins waiting again holding open the wallet in hopes the turtles are the rea;ized as the only good choice* | Did you even read my post? Hard to debate from the same side of the fence, don't you think? |
07-24-2005, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Blowout Quote: |
Originally Posted by BeefnCheese ok Jimmy - get out of my head!!! The curved trees and turtles are in NO WAY graphically pleasing to the eye.
*sits back down and begins waiting again holding open the wallet in hopes the turtles are the rea;ized as the only good choice* | Did you even read my post? Hard to debate from the same side of the fence, don't you think? | Not trying to debate - Agreeing with what you said.... |
07-24-2005, 12:31 PM
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| | What do you all think of the Turtles mold when the turtles are "empty" on the inside? |
07-24-2005, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Murf What do you all think of the Turtles mold when the turtles are "empty" on the inside? | 1. The Turtle mold is currently 3rd among the voters.
2. We are still waiting for the clay samples from Matsui.
3. TR King may take over the inlay for this GB, so no custom mold.
Otherwise, I prefer the original turtle mold. |
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