[Wooderson]

I was going to post this in the prior thread, but JM locked it.

I just received an email from Jin at Matsui. Here is the exchange, verbatim.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linc Campbell"
To: "Jinny Sun"
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: Casino chips


> Hi Jin,
>
> I hope you are well. Is Matsui still manufacturing a clay casino chip that
> can be hotstamped?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Linc Campbell

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From: "MATSUI AMERICA, INC."
To: "Linc Campbell"
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Casino chips

Dear Linc,

Thank you for the email.

Yes, we do manufacture a clay chip but the quality is not good compare to
Paulson chip.

In the mean time, did you read the new as below?
http://www.abc15.com/content/news/investigators/story.aspx?content_id=4505adee-6851-4a27-a3e6-dd77500045b9

If you want a hotstamp chips, I recommend out one color solid chip, CC110
style.

Please see the attachment.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me.

Thanks,

JIN K. SUN

MATSUI AMERICA INC.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Linc Campbell"
To: "MATSUI AMERICA, INC."
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Casino chips



Hi Jin,

Thank you for the follow up. Are the clay chips the same ones that you were
manufacturing a few years ago? I do have a sample of three clays from you
that I received in 2004 or 2005. Two have edgespots, one is solid. Do the
edgespot chips not work well with hotstamps?

Thanks again Jin. I appreciate the information. It comes as good news too!

Linc

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So there it is. Matsui does have a clay chip. The hitch is they do not have an inlay clay chip.

[imperial10]

Thanks for the follow up. I'd like to say sorry to JM for the misunderstanding. I think we all got a little excited and jumped the gun on matsui clays.

[joshuadalton]

This is really weird to me.

I've been in constant contact with Jin for the past year, and ask about clay chips every couple weeks (not specifying hotstamp or inlay, spots or no spots), just clay chips. Each time, he has told me that they were still developing the new clay chips.

I sent another email after reading the OP, so we shall see.

[imperial10]

Originally Posted by imperial10

I'd like to say sorry to JM for the misunderstanding.

I mean sorry to joshuadalton

[joshuadalton]

OK, Clarification has been made. The OLD clay chips are still available, but Jin is not satisfied with the quality, and does not recommend them. This is why they are developing the new line.

[JM]

Originally Posted by imperial10

I mean sorry to joshuadalton

I was so confused there for a minute!

[Wooderson]

FYI, these are the same chips that a number of us received in 2004 and that there is currently a review of. I can't imagine why Jin would recommend against a product from his company (unless the clays are cheaper and he'd rather sell his premium chips, which makes sense). Anyway, I love the samples I have and I know others feel the same. I'm waiting on a reply from Jin on a number of other questions, but I would love a set of them and always have.

[develvjd-]

Wooderson, can you comment on the Matsui clays that you have samples of?

What's the quality issue? The pics looked fine...

[ott]

I think the Matsui Clays are just lighter than the Paulsons. Not so much a quality issue. Maybe Matsui is trying to develop a formula for the clays to come close in weight of the Paulsons without resorting to using lead to increase the weight. The Paulson clays are manufactured in Mexico.

Looking at my Paulson Vineyard $100's, I do notice quite a bit of metallic shavings by looking at the edge. Maybe it's lead and maybe it's not.

I wonder if testing BCC and other clay chip manufacturers (including chips from China) would reveal lead content.

[JM]

Originally Posted by ott

Looking at my Paulson Vineyard $100's, I do notice quite a bit of metallic shavings by looking at the edge. Maybe it's lead and maybe it's not.

I wonder if testing BCC and other clay chip manufacturers (including chips from China) would reveal lead content.

Those are for security, not weight. I believe its aluminum.

Others have tested other chips and found none in bcc, none in ceramic, some in TRK.