KEM Casino Group Buy **Returns/Exchanges**

[Wedge Rock]

***3/23/07 Update***
This group buy consisted of pre-USPC green/brown circleback casino KEMs, pre-USPC black/burgundy casino KEM's, USPC red/blue casino KEMs, and USPC green/brown casino KEMs. The order was placed through Kardwell and I think we totaled something like 130 set-ups (260 decks). The order was sent to me in 12/06 and all cards delivered to the group buyers in 12/06 and 1/07.

Some people with the pre-USPC cards complained that they got seconds instead of casino quality. I am in the process of making that right with Joe from Kardwell.

Phase 1 consisted of replacing cards for those that only had a few problems. The following people had individual cards replaced:

The3rd
RockStrongo
CTRounder
Dwight87
Shrtstp
EasilyFound

Those replacements were mailed 3/22/07 and 3/23/07. Joe sent them to me for free, and I covered the shipping back out to you guys. Hopefully, this will make the six of you "right". Please confirm when you get them in.

Also, Joe sent me a full set-up to use as replacements and then a few miscellaneous cards that had duplicate problems. As a result, I have some spare cards available if others need a replacement:

Green Circlebacks
Clubs: A, 2
Hearts: A, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9
Diamonds: A, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, J
Spades: None
+ 2 Jokers

Brown Circlebacks
Clubs: 2, 3, 6, 7, J, Q, K
Hearts: A, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, J, Q, K
Diamonds: A, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, T, J, Q, K
Spades: A, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, T, Q, K
+ 2 Jokers

If you were involved in the original group buy but missed phase 1, I will send you replacement cards, but you pay the postage. If you were not involved in the group buy, these cards are available for $1 each, with the intention that sales will offset what I have to pay in postage to re-ship.

Phase 2 is already under way for those that have entire decks (or nearly all of a deck) damaged/unacceptable. I will continue to take claims into next week, then I will send Joe a fax with a list of the problems. I assume that you will have to send me your ace of spades in Phase 2 to get a replacement, but I don't know that for sure. I also do not know what the remedy will be. I assume they will be replaced, but they may also be substituted (for, say, post-USPC casinos, which had almost no problems) or refunded. When I know the remedy and the replacement/refund procedure, I will let you know.

Once Phase 2 is over, you will have to deal with Joe directly for problems. I will be glad to confirm with Joe what cards you purchased as part of this group buy, but you will have to work with him to correct your porblems.

Hopefully we can wrap this GB up shortly. Any questions, let me know.

[tripod22]

Now listed in the GB sticky.

[Sniper2075]

I say wait untill we get 50+ ordered.

I will also bump my order to 5 as for an extra $4 I'll get another setup.

So I will get 4 if we are at the under 50 pricing and 5 setups if we go over 50. Heck I might have to get 6 but for now lets say 5. Hopefully we can get to 50 cause I would love to get 5 setups for that price.

[Wedge Rock]

If *everyone* is good with trying for 50 set-ups, I can hold it open beyond 12/4. But I don't want to do that unless all original 12 people agree.

Thanks to tripod for closing the old thread (and changing the title) and for adding us to the GB sticky. Perhaps the extra exposure will help us get the last 20 set-ups we need.

[Ranman]

Hey Wedge,
I've been trying to find some pics of the Royals without any luck. Can you tell me if the King, Queen & Jack have actual flesh colored faces and hands? If so I'm in for at least 1 set up.

Thanks

Ranman

[tripod22]

I thought all KEM's had that, but maybe not.

As far as reaching 50, looks easy.

+2 for Wedge Rock
+1 for me
+1 for sniper
+1 for Ranman

Only 15 to go.

Originally Posted by Ranman

Hey Wedge,
I've been trying to find some pics of the Royals without any luck. Can you tell me if the King, Queen & Jack have actual flesh colored faces and hands? If so I'm in for at least 1 set up.

Thanks

Ranman

[Ranman]

Originally Posted by tripod22

I thought all KEM's had that, but maybe not.

As far as reaching 50, looks easy.

+2 for Wedge Rock
+1 for me
+1 for sniper
+1 for Ranman

Only 15 to go.

yep, I have a set up of pre USPC Paisley's and USPC Arrows and they are that way.

What was it KingDodo said (at the 1st NE CT game) was different about the casino KEMs? I know the casinos are not as "thin" as regular KEMs (maybe that was it).

Ranman

[tripod22]

All I remember is that they have a brown box.

Brown = special

Originally Posted by Ranman

yep, I have a set up of pre USPC Paisley's and USPC Arrows and they are that way.

What was it KingDodo said (at the 1st NE CT game) was different about the casino KEMs? I know the casinos are not as "thin" as regular KEMs (maybe that was it).

Ranman

[AceOnRiver]

i dont really care if we extend the deadline to get 50 or not as long as the group buy is going to happen for sure.i will go with the majority vote.i will most likely take 1 extra setup of green and brown circlebacks if we get 50 or more setups though.

yes they have the skin color on them.i own both the green and brown circlebacks and green and brown post uspc and they both have skin color.

the brown box is the pre uspc cards and the black box is the post uspc cards.

[ronitonline]

I dont htink it matters if we wait, I think it will be nice if we do though.