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Old 11-20-2006, 12:19 PM
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KEM Casino Group Buy **Returns/Exchanges**

***3/23/07 Update***
This group buy consisted of pre-USPC green/brown circleback casino KEMs, pre-USPC black/burgundy casino KEM's, USPC red/blue casino KEMs, and USPC green/brown casino KEMs. The order was placed through Kardwell and I think we totaled something like 130 set-ups (260 decks). The order was sent to me in 12/06 and all cards delivered to the group buyers in 12/06 and 1/07.

Some people with the pre-USPC cards complained that they got seconds instead of casino quality. I am in the process of making that right with Joe from Kardwell.

Phase 1 consisted of replacing cards for those that only had a few problems. The following people had individual cards replaced:

The3rd
RockStrongo
CTRounder
Dwight87
Shrtstp
EasilyFound

Those replacements were mailed 3/22/07 and 3/23/07. Joe sent them to me for free, and I covered the shipping back out to you guys. Hopefully, this will make the six of you "right". Please confirm when you get them in.

Also, Joe sent me a full set-up to use as replacements and then a few miscellaneous cards that had duplicate problems. As a result, I have some spare cards available if others need a replacement:

Green Circlebacks
Clubs: A, 2
Hearts: A, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9
Diamonds: A, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, J
Spades: None
+ 2 Jokers

Brown Circlebacks
Clubs: 2, 3, 6, 7, J, Q, K
Hearts: A, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, J, Q, K
Diamonds: A, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, T, J, Q, K
Spades: A, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, T, Q, K
+ 2 Jokers

If you were involved in the original group buy but missed phase 1, I will send you replacement cards, but you pay the postage. If you were not involved in the group buy, these cards are available for $1 each, with the intention that sales will offset what I have to pay in postage to re-ship.

Phase 2 is already under way for those that have entire decks (or nearly all of a deck) damaged/unacceptable. I will continue to take claims into next week, then I will send Joe a fax with a list of the problems. I assume that you will have to send me your ace of spades in Phase 2 to get a replacement, but I don't know that for sure. I also do not know what the remedy will be. I assume they will be replaced, but they may also be substituted (for, say, post-USPC casinos, which had almost no problems) or refunded. When I know the remedy and the replacement/refund procedure, I will let you know.

Once Phase 2 is over, you will have to deal with Joe directly for problems. I will be glad to confirm with Joe what cards you purchased as part of this group buy, but you will have to work with him to correct your porblems.

Hopefully we can wrap this GB up shortly. Any questions, let me know.
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

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Okay, here's the deal: this GB is going to be for 50+ set-ups. I am changing the pricing in the OP to reflect that. I will also add the conditional orders (if we are over 50, I'll take 3 otherwise I'll take 2).

I'll keep the GB open until 12/4 only. On 12/4, we'll see how many we have. If it is less than 50, I'll purchase the additional set-ups and split them with whoever wants them (Ranman said he'd take them too). If you want to split these "extra setups" with Ranman and myself, post you interest.

After 12/4, I will accept payments up until 12/11, then place the order. Since the pricing is now set, if you are not going to be ordering any more set-ups, then you can send in payment now.
If you need or want me to I could also split the difference in the extras, but I'm not in the mood to try and sell them on eBay so I'm getting mine for my use and I think another 5 would be good as I already have 2 setups which I paid about $32 shipped for.

But I will take 5 setups at the price because these cards are the best I have ever had, Dal Negros are my second favorites to these but at these prices I have to stock up, I may get 6 setups since these will get really pricy in the future and getting them will only get more difficult.
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

We are at 40 set-ups now. Sniper, I don't mind taking the 10 extras (like you, I think these will only go up in price). Ranman can take five of them if he wants. But if you are not inclined to resell them and liekly won't use them, then no need. I think we have it covered.
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

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We are at 40 set-ups now. Sniper, I don't mind taking the 10 extras (like you, I think these will only go up in price). Ranman can take five of them if he wants. But if you are not inclined to resell them and liekly won't use them, then no need. I think we have it covered.
I'm just trying to figure if 7 setups is enough. They last a long time so this is probably many years worth of cards but then that day will come when I have to use some other cards. Well either way I think 5 setups will be my order.
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

Put me down for a total of 5 set-ups (three g/b circle backs, one b/b, one USPC r/b). Is there a price break at 100? Just curious.
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

Alright, well despite my Dal Negro hook up....I can't pass this up. Put me down for 2 PREuspc green/brown circle.

I still might add another one before the 4th. Thanks for doin this Wedge
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

Wow I might actually add some before the 4th, it looks like we will easily get 50 especially if sniper and wedge might just order a couple extra for the hell of it.
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

Any chance to get them also with jumbo-index? Would prefer to get them as jumbo index if possible or an set of KEM Magnums for that price
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

Teufel I have a set of pre-USPC Circlebacks with Jumbo index that I MIGHT be willing to sell to you if you cant find any.
They have been used probably 5-10 times and been kept in good shape, no marked cards.

I need to decide if i want to keep them or not though
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I'd like to order one each of the following:
green/brown circle back
black/burgundy casino back

will mail you a check tomorrow, thanks for putting this together.
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

told ya so, told ya so

Looks like you and Ranman won't have an excuse to buy the extras now (not that I suspect you won't).

I predict 50 by the 27th if not sooner.
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