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Old 11-20-2006, 12:19 PM
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KEM Casino Group Buy **Returns/Exchanges**

***3/23/07 Update***
This group buy consisted of pre-USPC green/brown circleback casino KEMs, pre-USPC black/burgundy casino KEM's, USPC red/blue casino KEMs, and USPC green/brown casino KEMs. The order was placed through Kardwell and I think we totaled something like 130 set-ups (260 decks). The order was sent to me in 12/06 and all cards delivered to the group buyers in 12/06 and 1/07.

Some people with the pre-USPC cards complained that they got seconds instead of casino quality. I am in the process of making that right with Joe from Kardwell.

Phase 1 consisted of replacing cards for those that only had a few problems. The following people had individual cards replaced:

The3rd
RockStrongo
CTRounder
Dwight87
Shrtstp
EasilyFound

Those replacements were mailed 3/22/07 and 3/23/07. Joe sent them to me for free, and I covered the shipping back out to you guys. Hopefully, this will make the six of you "right". Please confirm when you get them in.

Also, Joe sent me a full set-up to use as replacements and then a few miscellaneous cards that had duplicate problems. As a result, I have some spare cards available if others need a replacement:

Green Circlebacks
Clubs: A, 2
Hearts: A, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9
Diamonds: A, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, J
Spades: None
+ 2 Jokers

Brown Circlebacks
Clubs: 2, 3, 6, 7, J, Q, K
Hearts: A, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, J, Q, K
Diamonds: A, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, T, J, Q, K
Spades: A, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, T, Q, K
+ 2 Jokers

If you were involved in the original group buy but missed phase 1, I will send you replacement cards, but you pay the postage. If you were not involved in the group buy, these cards are available for $1 each, with the intention that sales will offset what I have to pay in postage to re-ship.

Phase 2 is already under way for those that have entire decks (or nearly all of a deck) damaged/unacceptable. I will continue to take claims into next week, then I will send Joe a fax with a list of the problems. I assume that you will have to send me your ace of spades in Phase 2 to get a replacement, but I don't know that for sure. I also do not know what the remedy will be. I assume they will be replaced, but they may also be substituted (for, say, post-USPC casinos, which had almost no problems) or refunded. When I know the remedy and the replacement/refund procedure, I will let you know.

Once Phase 2 is over, you will have to deal with Joe directly for problems. I will be glad to confirm with Joe what cards you purchased as part of this group buy, but you will have to work with him to correct your porblems.

Hopefully we can wrap this GB up shortly. Any questions, let me know.
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

I'd like (1) G/B circle back pre-uspc set-up....

Might pick up another set-up before the 12/4 deadline as well, so I'll wait to send payment.
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

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If *everyone* is good with trying for 50 set-ups, I can hold it open beyond 12/4. But I don't want to do that unless all original 12 people agree.

Thanks to tripod for closing the old thread (and changing the title) and for adding us to the GB sticky. Perhaps the extra exposure will help us get the last 20 set-ups we need.
I'm happy to extend the order date. No rush as far as I am concerned.

These cards are my consolation prize to myself for being shafted by Rak in his trainwreck of a GB/ripoff (not that I am still bitter)
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:33 AM
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

Guys

At the moment we have 30set up's and the base price each is 23.50. If we get up to 50 set up's the price goes to 19.50. Here comes the maths:
30 * 23.50 = 705
50 * 19.50 = 975
Net Difference 270.

If we could find a way to generate 270 dollers, we could order the 50 set up's and sell them on after the group buy. We would end up with an extra 20set-up's for the price of 14 (based on the 19.50 price). I sure wouldn't mind sticking in an extra 40dollers or so knowing that once there sold we will get our money back. I'm sure if we stick them in Member to Member sales or what not they would sell no problem at that price. Even on e-bay they would sell well. Then once all 50decks are gone WedgeRock can refund us all, our extra money and the 4dollers per set up extra we paid.

Just said i'd put the option out there to see what people think.
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

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i dont really care if we extend the deadline to get 50 or not as long as the group buy is going to happen for sure.
It is going to happen, for sure.


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If we could find a way to generate 270 dollers, we could order the 50 set up's and sell them on after the group buy.
I considered the same thing... Buying 15 set-ups myself, getting the discount for everyone, then selling the extra set-ups on feeBay.
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

I'm open to doing something along those lines, although I think it'll be a matter of only 5 sets or something like that that we'll need to reach 50.
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

I'm in for 1 ea of the Pre-USPC set-ups (green/brown, black/burgundy).

I will also share (with whoever is interested) in the purchase of the remainder of the set-ups to get to 50. If no one else wants to do it I will get them myself. I'll hold off payment until I know where we are going.

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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

Count me in...2 setups Pre-USPC Burg/Blk
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

You can change my TBD to Black/Burg.

I'll bump up to 2 set-ups if needed to reach 50, otherwise I'll stay at 1.
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Re: KEM Casino Group Buy **Taking Orders thru 12/4/06**

Okay, here's the deal: this GB is going to be for 50+ set-ups. I am changing the pricing in the OP to reflect that. I will also add the conditional orders (if we are over 50, I'll take 3 otherwise I'll take 2).

I'll keep the GB open until 12/4 only. On 12/4, we'll see how many we have. If it is less than 50, I'll purchase the additional set-ups and split them with whoever wants them (Ranman said he'd take them too). If you want to split these "extra setups" with Ranman and myself, post you interest.

After 12/4, I will accept payments up until 12/11, then place the order. Since the pricing is now set, if you are not going to be ordering any more set-ups, then you can send in payment now.
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