[Jonah 99]

I'm getting ready to introduce Razz to my home game.

Any one have any thoughts or tips that may prove useful?



FYI.
Razz Rules:
Dealt out like seven card stud, but lowest hand wins.
A2345 is the nuts (straights and flushes don't count as high hands)

[99%evil]

My only question on Razz is how do pairs count? (I know they're bad, but what about when 2 folks have pairs as part of their hand (6,6,6,2,8,7,7 against 2,2,A,A,9,10,2) I can read a straight hand, you start at the highest card and work down to determine a winner, but when there are multiple hands with pairs, I'm a bit lost. Not sure who wins...

I know that 10,10,J,Q,K,A,K beats A,A,2,2,3,3,4

But who wins this hand? A,A,2,3,5,5,5 vs. A,A,2,3,3,3,5 or is this a tie?

I know multiple pair hands don't occur often, but I'd like to be able to make the proper call.

You know, I guess I could google razz rules....

[Strange]

Lowest hand in the first case is a pair of 5's with a 3, 2 and A

Lowest hand in the second case is a pair of 3's with a 5, 2 and A

3's are lower than 5's, so the 3's win.

also:

"I know that 10,10,J,Q,K,A,K beats A,A,2,2,3,3,4"

Doesn't look like it to me.....

lowest hand for player 1 would be 10,10,j,q,k (10's)
lowest hand for player 2 would be 2,2,3,4,a (2's)

so the 2's win.


i think

[99%evil]

But couldn't you say they both have 5,3,2,A,A? With the aces being the low pair?

[Strange]

hmmmmm, a pair of aces be low?

I knew I shouldn't have started this....LOL

You might be right

Edit: i think you are:

2. The lowest hand wins the pot. Aces are low, and straights and flushes have no effect on the low value of a hand. The best possible hand is 5-4-3-2-A.

Aces are always low it would appear.

[texred1]

Originally Posted by 99%evil

But who wins this hand? A,A,2,3,5,5,5 vs. A,A,2,3,3,3,5 or is this a tie?

A,A,2,3,3,3,5 would have a A,A,5,3,2
A,A,2,3,5,5,5 would have a A,A,5,3,2

So it would be a split pot.

That being said, both of these hand suck, and if you are betting or calling with them you should not be playing Razz.

~dustin

[99%evil]

No I wouldn't call with these hands, but I'm curious how a pair of aces goes from being low to hi? I'm looking at multiple sites for an answer. I like playing razz and would be out of a pot with multiple pairs, but before bringing razz to our regular game, I want the rules down pat in my head.

Another for instance-
A,3,4,5,5,5,5 vs. 2,2,2,8,9,10,2. I'm reading that the pair determines the low so the hand with 2's would win...but I'm not sure. I don't want to be in a game and not know how to properly call a hand, regardless if a person should be in a hand or not.

[99%evil]

This site says a pair of aces beats a pair of twos
http://razz.info/

[Strange]

Originally Posted by 99%evil

Another for instance-
A,3,4,5,5,5,5 vs. 2,2,2,8,9,10,2. I'm reading that the pair determines the low so the hand with 2's would win...but I'm not sure. I don't want to be in a game and not know how to properly call a hand, regardless if a person should be in a hand or not.

I'm pretty damn sure that the 2's win in this case.

[99%evil]

I'm starting to figure this out.

The pair is your hi, then your other cards
for instance

5,5,K,10,9
beats
6,6,5,3,A

And it appears Aces are the lowest pair.