[Paradigm]

Hi.

I'm a n00b.

I'm no TenPercenter.

No Johnny5.

But I need help.

I want to get 500 ASM chips as what will effectively serve as my luxury chip set. I have a set of 400 crappy super diamond chips that I hate, so I want something new. On a given day, my friends and I might play any of the following hold-em games:

CASH: .10/.20 blinds, No limit
CASH: .25/.50 blinds, No limit

(in sum, a 2 blind no-limit game. rarely, we'll play a .25/.25 no limit cash game)

TOURNEY: 150 chips, divvied in 1's, 5's, and 10's or 25's.
TOURNEY: some estimation of chips in true dollar format: i.e., giving out $20 in chips, and having blinds start at .25/.50
TOURNEY: i would like to start a tourney with high denominations, perhaps starting in the 10000 range and blinds beginning at 50/100

That said, I need YOUR help to come up with my denominations. I am a complete novice here, and also do not have the foresight to determine what a versatile set is. I have 400 chips right now, with 150 white, 100 red, 50 blue, 50 black, 50 red. This has served my needs. I will now likely be getting 500 chips, but there's a chance i'll get 400 again.

I would like to use the following spotted base colors: white, blue, red, green, black, yellow. I think I see yellow as the chip I would have the fewest of. If I was to get any non-spotted chips, I would get orange and orange alone.

SO -- noting the versatility that I need, how would you break down either 400 or 500 chips?

I thank you for your help, and hope that nobody gets upset that I made a thread for this. Since I'm making my first big chip purchase, I want to make sure it's done right -- who better than you experts to help.

Thanks again!

[Paradigm]

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[Java Lizard]

Paradigm.

I'm a novice too, just look at the amount of posts I have made. I will be getting some cusotm ASM's as well. I originally was going to get about 500-750 chips. Then the more I thought about it I decided to get 1000. Well, like you I want a very versatile set. One where I can play cash games and tournaments with fantasy high dollar chips. I'm a lover of denoms too. I know a lot of people don't like denoms but I really dig it, makes it feel more like real casino play! So now I'm going to be getting about 1500 chips.

If you have the scratch to pay for that many I suggest it cause it is the only way you are going to get the best of both worlds if you want denom chips that spread from say .25 cents to 5,000. Of course there is a denom route where you don's use the $ symbol or decimal places which will help you limit down your chips a bit. You could get chips as 1, 5, 10, 25, 50, 100, 1000, 5000. The 1 could be a buck or a penny, the 5 can be a nickel or 5 bucks, etc....

You need to remember too that for each 100 chips you get to pick a new color through PC.com. So with 500 chips you get to pick essentially 5 colors. If you want greater variety in color choices for different denoms you may want to up your chip order.

I can't even begin to tell you how to break down your numbers for your different denoms/colors. I found that it is something that is pretty customized. I've read dozens of forums where people have talked baout chip ordering and denom break downs and have been to different review site such as home poker tourney.com (EXCELLENT SITE!!). I want to do 24 person T1000 or T1500 tourney's which is one of the big reasons for my chip order increasing. Figure how many chips you will need and start from there. Now figure you may want to do rebuys and addons too. Well that may time your order by 2. Now you want chips available in small denoms for real money games and possibly those games may be going on at side tables while you tourney is going cause people have been knocked out early. You don't want those chips getting added to someones stack in the tourney so you want different colors and real denoms to differentiate them from the tourney chips. Course you could go with cheap one's for the side games, say dice chips or something, and that's a personal decision. Myself, I want all my chips to be themed together all the way from .25 to 5,000. As you can see the more you think about it the more personal the breakdown of chips and denoms becomes.

Good Luck to you!
Java Lizard

[TomHimself]

Originally Posted by Java Lizard

Paradigm.

I'm a novice too, just look at the amount of posts I have made. I will be getting some cusotm ASM's as well. I originally was going to get about 500-750 chips. Then the more I thought about it I decided to get 1000. Well, like you I want a very versatile set. One where I can play cash games and tournaments with fantasy high dollar chips. I'm a lover of denoms too. I know a lot of people don't like denoms but I really dig it, makes it feel more like real casino play! So now I'm going to be getting about 1500 chips.

If you have the scratch to pay for that many I suggest it cause it is the only way you are going to get the best of both worlds if you want denom chips that spread from say .25 cents to 5,000. Of course there is a denom route where you don's use the $ symbol or decimal places which will help you limit down your chips a bit. You could get chips as 1, 5, 10, 25, 50, 100, 1000, 5000. The 1 could be a buck or a penny, the 5 can be a nickel or 5 bucks, etc....

You need to remember too that for each 100 chips you get to pick a new color through PC.com. So with 500 chips you get to pick essentially 5 colors. If you want greater variety in color choices for different denoms you may want to up your chip order.

I can't even begin to tell you how to break down your numbers for your different denoms/colors. I found that it is something that is pretty customized. I've read dozens of forums where people have talked baout chip ordering and denom break downs and have been to different review site such as home poker tourney.com (EXCELLENT SITE!!). I want to do 24 person T1000 or T1500 tourney's which is one of the big reasons for my chip order increasing. Figure how many chips you will need and start from there. Now figure you may want to do rebuys and addons too. Well that may time your order by 2. Now you want chips available in small denoms for real money games and possibly those games may be going on at side tables while you tourney is going cause people have been knocked out early. You don't want those chips getting added to someones stack in the tourney so you want different colors and real denoms to differentiate them from the tourney chips. Course you could go with cheap one's for the side games, say dice chips or something, and that's a personal decision. Myself, I want all my chips to be themed together all the way from .25 to 5,000. As you can see the more you think about it the more personal the breakdown of chips and denoms becomes.

Good Luck to you!
Java Lizard

when did you order your chips, i would love to see some pics when you get them. i am guessing you made a inlay i too love denoms.

[tomb1]

Paradigm, to me there are several choices:

1. Buy lots of chips if you have the money, essentially two different sets to be able to host both small stakes cash games and tourneys. Get chips from 25¢ to $1,000+. This is the only way to get everything.
2. Maintain a cheap set for one purpose and a good set for the other.
3. Use all non-denomination sets for the most flexibility.
4. Get good chips with denoms, but "cheat" on the denoms for some purposes. For example, use you $25 chips as 25¢ in a cash game and $100 chips as $1.
5. Some combination of denoms and maybe one non-denom chip that is your wild card (floater) depending on what you're playing.

OK, so much for all the confusing choices. What to do?

Well, I like denoms. I also like to play tourneys using big dollar amounts. I also think that 4 colors is enough for any game -- getting lots of colors cuts down the quantity you can get of each color.

So for a 500-chip set I would get something like this. I would divide the chip values by 100 for small stakes.

100 - $5 reds (also serve as 5¢)
150 - $25 greens (also serve as 25¢)
150 - $100 blacks (also serve as $1)
100 - $500 yellow or orange (serve as the wild card)

Just my 2¢ worth. There is much more info on this and other sites, just search around.

[Paradigm]

wow

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i should have specified that i'm getting in on ledavatar's group buy!!! how could i forget that! so, those are my choices any suggestions for 500 VERSATILE chips with the choices i mentioned at the beginning?

once more:

I would like to use the following spotted base colors: white, blue, red, green, black, yellow. I think I see yellow as the chip I would have the fewest of. If I was to get any non-spotted chips, I would get orange and orange alone.

[Java Lizard]

TomHimself,

I'm actually placing my order at the end of this month. I've been in contact with Jane from PC.com. She has been a huge help with my multitude of questions. Yes, I am doing custom inlays with an outdoors theme. I love to backpack and camp as well as ski, snowshoes, etc. They will have all have the same logo on one side and each denom will have its own custom artwork on the backside of the chip. I will be posting pics of them once I get them. Unfortunatley, when I order it will be friggin forever till I get them.

Paradigm, again....good luck!

Java Lizard

[TomHimself]

Originally Posted by Java Lizard

TomHimself,

I'm actually placing my order at the end of this month. I've been in contact with Jane from PC.com. She has been a huge help with my multitude of questions. Yes, I am doing custom inlays with an outdoors theme. I love to backpack and camp as well as ski, snowshoes, etc. They will have all have the same logo on one side and each denom will have its own custom artwork on the backside of the chip. I will be posting pics of them once I get them. Unfortunatley, when I order it will be friggin forever till I get them.

Paradigm, again....good luck!

Java Lizard

sounds like it will be a great chip, seems like everyone is pleased wheN they get their ASM's too bad for the wait