[Nanook]

There are several conflicting reports on defferent ASM chips being recessed or not recessed. What is the real deal?

I am particularly interested in the Horsehead mold, (because of Ledavator's group buy) however I think it would be interesting if someone would actually take a micrometer and measure all of the ASM molds and give us the results.

I have a standard machinists micrometer, but not the C type that will measure an inner area like the insert.

Jason has put some labels on the circle square mold and they look good, but the real question is "do the chips stack on the mold or on the label?" If the chips stack on the label, it does not seem like such a good idea. I guess another important question is "how thick are the different available labels?"

Is there room in the inlay area for a label or not? I don't want my chips stacking on the labels!

AB

[Cin0s3]

Hi Nanook, I think the only ASM chip with a recessed center is the HH, if you look in ledavators thread for the group buy there are some pics of them. I also believe that the centers on them are only 7/8" as well so putting a 1" label on there would be futile as it would sit on the ridge.

The labels I put on my CS chips were extremely thin and did not impair the stacking of the chips. Yes the chips do sit on the labels but it is no where near as bad as a paper label was on my initial test.

[SpaceMonkey]

Well, the sample HH's I have are certainly not recessed. Pictures may make them look like they are recessed due to the concentric circles on the mold.

If someone could use a good micrometer, that would be great.

I can say that the center of the HH is smaller than the A mold or Roman mold. And I know PCOL only will do a 1" inlay on those latter two molds (and not on the HH).

[Derryabu]

Could someone give pc.com a ring and ask the question,recessed or not?
I'm in the same boat as Nanook I will only buy if there is a recessed centre.
I'd give them a call myself but I'm in the U.K.

[CaptLego]

I only have a couple of ASM chips, but for what it's worth:

Horsehead, American Eagle, small diameter inlay:
thickness at outer edge: 0.129" to 0.1308" (varies around the perimeter)thickness at the HH: same. (0.129" to 0.1305")
thickness at the inlay: 0.124" to 0.1245"

So the inlay is recessed about 0.002" on each side... Sorry, this is probably not much help.... we need measurements on plain HH. I don't know enough about the manufacturing process for inlays to predict if plain chips would have more or less recess than this. However, on my sample, the inlay is actually a slightly smaller diameter than the inner ring. I could measure the thickness of the chip in the area between the inlay and the inner ring. Thickness here is 0.124". So it looks like the chip is about 0.005" thinner inside the inner ring, and the inlay is flush with this surface.

A mold, plain:
thickness at the outer edge: 0.129"
thickness at the center: 0.129"

[ledavatar]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

Well, the sample HH's I have are certainly not recessed. Pictures may make them look like they are recessed due to the concentric circles on the mold.

If someone could use a good micrometer, that would be great.

I can say that the center of the HH is smaller than the A mold or Roman mold. And I know PCOL only will do a 1" inlay on those latter two molds (and not on the HH).

I don't have any samples of the plain HH's, but think they are recessed because HH is meant to have an inlay and circle/roman are not. The base chip for the HH mold therefore needs to have a slightly recessed inlay to fit the sticker.

Needless to say, I would very much like to know the answer to that question. I will ask PC.com directly, but if anyone who had ordered plain HH mold chips can verify that for us it would really help.

[tantan]

My HH's that I just received today are not recessed. Spacemonkey is correct, they do appear to be recessed because of the concentric circles but are in fact not

[ledavatar]

Originally Posted by tantan

My HH's that I just received today are not recessed. Spacemonkey is correct, they do appear to be recessed because of the concentric circles but are in fact not

Did you get the plain non-inlay HHs or the normal eagle inlay chips? It's clear that the normal HH chips with inlays have no recessed center but the question is on the non-inlay plain HH chips that they just recently started to offer.

[tantan]

I ordered customs

[ledavatar]

Originally Posted by tantan

I ordered customs

Damn, then the question remains...