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Old 03-26-2005, 08:29 AM
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Native wildlife labels on NEXGEN's

This is my first post on any forum anywhere....I hope the image works.

I decided to try my own "custom" labels after reading about it all over the web for the past few weeks / months.

We typically play $.50/$1 blinds no limit hold-em and with 5-8 guys we can get $300-500+ in play over the course of the night. We generally buy-in at $20 increments, which is why I went with a white $20 chip instead of the more customary green $25. The break down of my new set is 100 Yellow ($50), 200 Blue ($200), 80 Red ($400) and 20 White ($400) for a total of $1050. I have an extra 20 red chips. For traveling, I will leave the yellow home and just take 300 chips in my old 11.5g case and play $1/$1.



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On the design - my house number is 91, probably could have been a little more creative with the name. I tried to keep it to one style of chip, but just didn't like 8000 series white or blue chips or the 8002 yellow chip with the different edge spot colors, and I already had 100 of the red 8000 series from a previous e-bay auction. I really liked the blue and white 8002s, and since you can buy a single chip of any style from 5stardeal I got what I wanted.

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100 glossy white laser labels (data-labels.com) $39.95 plus $7.79 shipping (split with a co-worker). I used 24 sheets and have 26 left over. My cost = $23.87

100 yellow 8000s @ $0.20 each, 200 blue and 20 white NEXGEN 8002s @ $0.22 each, 4 10-5030 racks @$1.42 each (all from 5stardeal.com) plus $11.41 shipping. Could have purchased a 300 or 500 set of the 8000s for ~$60 or ~$105 in a case, but I got what I wanted color wise. My cost = $85.09

Previously purchased 100 red 8000 series chips from 5stardeal. The winning bid was $2.25 with shipping of $9.95 (12.2 cents each - they stopped that e-bay offering a while ago). My cost = $12.20

24 black and white laser prints at Kinkos @ $0.50 each. My cost = $12.00

I had a licensed Photoshop limited version which I got free somewhere and I used the worldlabel.com free 15 day use software for printing.

My total set up cost was $133.36 for 420 custom chips or 31.7 cents each with enough labels left over to revise them in the future. Not including my research, design, printing and label applying time.

On the printing - it was hard to get the design centered, the top few rows seemed to print in the center, but further down the page, the print seemed to be more to the top of the label. I ran 2 more pages of each print to use just the upper rows. In my test prints on an inkjet printer, if I had a colored background, the bottom rows would have a sliver of unprinted area in the bottom of the label. I'm guessing the commercial guys who do this all the time have the trial and error experience and better software to get their efforts perfect.

I also have a 1150 11.5 gram plastic "suit" chips, the initial set of 300 was a christmas gift from my wife and very expensive compared to today's prices. The others were bought off e-bay for cheap. Those are our tournament chips, and the NEXGENs will be used for the cash game.

In my opinion the NEXGENs have a much better feel / sound and stack / shuffle better than the 11.5 gram plastic chips. I know they're no Paulson clay or even Chipco quality, but they are great improvement over the metal slug chips.

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Welcome to Chip Talk Matthew, great first post.

Nice looking chips too!

Are you an avid "chip sample collector" like some of us? What types of chips have you handled?
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Thanks....

Yes I have a small problem with poker chips.

My favorite chip I have for feel is a actually a $5 chip from the Carson Valley Inn in Minden, NV. It's a Chipco and the Casino's 1991 Collector Edition. the age and amount of use it has seen may have something to do with the feel. I also have a $2.50 chip from them which was the 1st blackjack i ever got at a casino table.

The paulson's are great - the primary host of our regular game picked up some used casino $1s and $5s - way beeter to handle than our old plastic 11.5 gram suits.

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Re: Native wildlife labels on NEXGEN's

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On the printing - it was hard to get the design centered, the top few rows seemed to print in the center, but further down the page, the print seemed to be more to the top of the label. I ran 2 more pages of each print to use just the upper rows. In my test prints on an inkjet printer, if I had a colored background, the bottom rows would have a sliver of unprinted area in the bottom of the label. I'm guessing the commercial guys who do this all the time have the trial and error experience and better software to get their efforts perfect.
Great first post and welcome to the forum. Printing is always an issue and the design needs to account for the slight off centering that can't be avoided (even w/ the pro's). In regards to the unprinted area the design should also incoporate a fair amount of bleed... i.e. the graphic background is significantly larger than the label such that unprinted areas do not occur.

Nice simple design.

I have some family up your way in Keene & Spofford and for a time in Dublin.

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RE: Printing

The worldlabel.com 15 day usage printing software had a 1" lable template. I extended the borders to 1.1" not 1.0" and the decreased the starting margins by 0.05" to try and start everyting in the upper left corner. The bottom rows were still off some.

It also mattered which way the lables were fed into the printer. The upper left and the lower right affected how the sheet printed. Whether the top rows or the bottom rows wound up off center.

It was fun playing around with the different designs.

The 3rd row 1st column lable also had a spot that would peel 100% - it was scrap on nearly all the sheets I printed. This was a function of the batch of sheets I received.

The moral of the story - print more than you need.

It's actually pretty satisfying printing up and creating something that is unique and is your design - more so if others appreciate it.

I just want to say great job to Ten and other contributors on the different Egyptian themes - it's hard work comming up with the perfect design and you should all take pride in the final product.

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