Mr Chips Ceramics vs. CHIPCO

[JoseRijo]

Originally Posted by palmimports

If you read my reply to the poster- it is as unbiased as it can be- my information was clear and concise regarding his question. I in no way specifically endorsed Sunfly blanks any more then I did Chipco blanks. I offered my professional and experienced opinion to a member of Chiptalk.

QFT

I just wanted to stick up for Joe in this thread. He gave his professional opinion. And what defines a professional? Making a living in that specific industry. Besides, I'm pretty sure "unbiased opinion" is an oxymoron.

[palmimports]

Originally Posted by JoseRijo

QFT

I just wanted to stick up for Joe in this thread. He gave his professional opinion. And what defines a professional? Making a living in that specific industry. Besides, I'm pretty sure "unbiased opinion" is an oxymoron.

Thats what I THOUGHT I did-LOL-

oxymoron- isnt that someone who thinks their clothes will be CLEANER if they use oxy clean??

hmmmm

THanks

[JM]

Close, oxymoron is another name for Billy Mays

Originally Posted by palmimports

Thats what I THOUGHT I did-LOL-

oxymoron- isnt that someone who thinks their clothes will be CLEANER if they use oxy clean??

hmmmm

THanks

[sro1234]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

if you are the sole distributer of sunfly blanks in the united states, as you've stated in the past, then you do in fact have a financial stake in sunfly blanks.

and if that's true, then by definition you can't give an unbiased opinion of them vs chipco blanks. you have this knack for showing up in threads in which guys that don't know better ask for an unbiased opinion and providing your "professional opinion" of what is essentially your product, without making clear why you're so interested. this is plainly dishonest.

this is my sole point.

I understand your point, and would agree on the principle : there is a higher risk of biased opinion.
However :
- anybody, you, me, will have objective opinions and personal preferences : who can claim having unbiased view on chips quality ?
- facts clearly show that Palmimports has been honest. I remind his conclusion :"Both are excellent products- one being more expensive then the other--". I would have expected some Sunfly apology to qualify this as "dishonest".

According to this, Palmimports input is fully valid.

Regards

[palmimports]

Originally Posted by sro1234

I understand your point, and would agree on the principle : there is a higher risk of biased opinion.
However :
- anybody, you, me, will have objective opinions and personal preferences : who can claim having unbiased view on chips quality ?
- facts clearly show that Palmimports has been honest. I remind his conclusion :"Both are excellent products- one being more expensive then the other--". I would have expected some Sunfly apology to qualify this as "dishonest".

According to this, Palmimports input is fully valid.

Regards

Quite often we will point people to other manufactures- I think part of being a sponsor is not just trying to hawk work no matter what- honestly- I have so much work here that CT orders are such a miniscule part of our business if it disappeared tomorrow trust me- we wouldnt feel ANY impact whatsoever- this position allows us so be as candid as one could expect- but sponsors should respect their competition- you NEVER know when you may need them for something-

For accuracy- aligned edges etc we will be the first to bow our heads to Gene at ABC- many times behind the scenes when we get inquiries or emails we just refer these people to ABC. We would do the same for Chipco and have- with certain caveats- which weve mentioned before.

We will also be the first to tell people overseas ceramics can be hit and miss- I dont feel quality control overseas is existant- so we tell people to govern their purchases primarily by price and secondly by quality.

Everyone's needs are different and we HOPE members feel we conribute with a positive reflection on one's questions/needs rather then trying to sway someone to us-

Every sponsor has their unique niche-- and so many sponsors who COULD offer credible information probably decide NOT to for fear of reprisal from a select few- we dont take this position and never will.

We tell it as we see it- and if we dont benefit- trust me- not the end of the world.

Thanks for you comments and support.

[BoilerRoomAA]

I would just like to say that in no way shape or form has Joe(PI) ever compromised this thread in any way. Some people have loyalties to other companies and that is great. I thought Joe did a great job in throwing information out there in a professional manner. Anyway thanks for all your insight. I have made a decision and what it came down to was "aligned edges" I loved my chipcos, feel, sound etc. But after receiving a sample of ceramics wsop replicas with aligned edges I was sold! They are awesome! i am customizing a set of 2007 WSOP Replicas. I will post pictures when they arrive.

Once again Thanks all! In making me think about my decision instead of jumping into something I would have regreted.

[handsomepants1]

I'm just now reading this post and I don't think Jojobinks knows the true meaning of "financial stakes" in a company. To have financial stakes in a company, one must OWN a part of that company (ie. stocks), be part owner, or be on their financial committee. By being the largest buyer/distributor in the world of Sunfly, in NO WAY gives them financial stakes. It only makes them a customer of Sunfly. I could go and get half of that distributorship tomorrow (if that was possible) and it wouldn't change a thing with Sunfly's financial records, etc. They could have 100 distributors and never use Palm and not one of them would have financial stakes in the company unless, by chance, one of them purchased stock in the company to the tune of owning a sizeable chunk thereby giving them the ability to dictate the financial dealings of the overall company by way of stockholder board meetings, etc. Just by being a buyer/distributor does not allow them to do that. Sunfly could sever all ties to Palm and go with someone else tomorrow, and it wouldn't change a dang thing for Sunfly. For Palm, that's a different story and one I'm sure they NEVER want to have happen.

[jspearm1983]

Originally Posted by palmimports

Quite often we will point people to other manufactures- I think part of being a sponsor is not just trying to hawk work no matter what- honestly- I have so much work here that CT orders are such a miniscule part of our business if it disappeared tomorrow trust me- we wouldnt feel ANY impact whatsoever- this position allows us so be as candid as one could expect- but sponsors should respect their competition- you NEVER know when you may need them for something-

For accuracy- aligned edges etc we will be the first to bow our heads to Gene at ABC- many times behind the scenes when we get inquiries or emails we just refer these people to ABC. We would do the same for Chipco and have- with certain caveats- which weve mentioned before.

Thanks for you comments and support.

I can vouch for Joe's statement here. I talked with him before placing my order for custom ceramics, and Joe told me that ABC is the best company for aligned edges, and that I should check them out as well.