BCC Custom Thread...Pricing, Base Color, Edge spot pattern clarifications

[links_slayer]

Originally Posted by smitty007

- All 32(?) colors available (Day Green is discouraged)

I confirmed with Mike (Yay for finally getting through!! and what a nice guy too by the way) that all the colors listed on their website are available for solid hotstamps. I'm not sure about custom hotstamps, but for stock denoms all 35 are available.

[MetalSlug3]

Originally Posted by ipgyst

So we can get the 514 and the 3U? Sweet! The 3U looks awesome on the BCC Royal Classic $5000 chips, and I love how the 514 looks like an homage to some of the TRK shallow edgespots.

Though the 514 was listed as on option available to us, Dave Endy emailed me to let me know that it couldn't be done (there was some technical explanation, I just can't remember, but maybe the issue is resolved by now).

It's a shame as it's an awesome spot configuration. Funny, I had the same idea about the homage to TRK and designed a custom set that was in fact an homage to TRK (King's Crown inlaid chips).

Here's the link to that pron:
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/custom...t-arrived.html

[ipgyst]

Originally Posted by MetalSlug3

Though the 514 was listed as on option available to us, Dave Endy emailed me to let me know that it couldn't be done (there was some technical explanation, I just can't remember, but maybe the issue is resolved by now).

It's a shame as it's an awesome spot configuration. Funny, I had the same idea about the homage to TRK and designed a custom set that was in fact an homage to TRK (King's Crown inlaid chips).

Here's the link to that pron:
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/custom...t-arrived.html

I'm a loooooong way from getting any BCC customs, so maybe they will have it fixed by then.

[ipgyst]

Sweet - I just found the 414818 pattern too. Very niiiice.

[beekeeper]

Can anyone guess why BCC will not offer some kind of special price for a black inlay (even if it's not quite as economical as their offer for white inlays). Can it be that their costs are for black inlays are that much more expensive?

[kmalsom]

Originally Posted by beekeeper

Can anyone guess why BCC will not offer some kind of special price for a black inlay (even if it's not quite as economical as their offer for white inlays). Can it be that their costs are for black inlays are that much more expensive?

Unfortunately, I believe they are. My understanding is that they are still using Strip Filming, which is a very labor intensive process. Basically it's taking and hand cutting each color out and overlaying them for printing.

[beekeeper]

Originally Posted by kmalsom

Unfortunately, I believe they are. My understanding is that they are still using Strip Filming, which is a very labor intensive process. Basically it's taking and hand cutting each color out and overlaying them for printing.

I just did a search on google for "strip filming" and couldn't find anything I understood.

What is different about the way they mfr while labels--can you guess?

And do you think, then, that they use "strip filming" for colored labels as well?

Thanks, Kari

[kmalsom]

Originally Posted by beekeeper

I just did a search on google for "strip filming" and couldn't find anything I understood.

What is different about the way they mfr while labels--can you guess?

And do you think, then, that they use "strip filming" for colored labels as well?

Thanks, Kari

Basically, what they do is manually cut each color (Cyan, Yellow, Magenta, Black) and create a negative that is hand cut and put together. Then they create a metal plate for the printing press. There is nothing there where the color is white, so they can make one negative and then make multiple copies and just place the denom on to create each plate (each denom takes it's own plate and each color takes it's own plate). When there is black or a color there, they have to create a separate negative for each inlay, creates a lot more work.

For example, to create this inlay (Hopefully Jamby won't mind me using her inlay as an example.):


They need these four negatives:





A lot of places do these electronically, but my understanding is that the printer BCC has still uses a manual process to create them. The printer then takes those negatives and photo etches them onto metal plates to create the plates for the printing presses.

These images are actually reversed since they aren't true negatives, but combining the four colors is still the same.

[nelohalo]

If you get BCC's made without any labels, is there a recess where you can put your own labels? That would solve the black label costs.

Do they offer only round inlays or some of the custom ones in the chip factory?

Do larger label sizes cost more than a standard 7/8?

[kmalsom]

Originally Posted by nelohalo

If you get BCC's made without any labels, is there a recess where you can put your own labels? That would solve the black label costs.

Do they offer only round inlays or some of the custom ones in the chip factory?

Do larger label sizes cost more than a standard 7/8?

There is a recess, but you can't get blank chips. They either have to have a hotstamp or an inlay.

Only round inlays are offered.

There is no extra charge for different size inlays (standard on the flame mold is 1")