Email received from ASM - RE: FDL mold & no mold

99%evil · #1 (**permalink**) 07-10-2007, 10:14 AM

So I'm thinking of a new solid tourney set, checked mold samples and liked the fleur de lis for a possible set. I e-mailed Cathy at PCOL about it, I mentioned the smooth large inlay might be a good medium for a photo-quality inlay, that's why the comment...

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Hi Chris

Sorry, but at this time we are not going to do chips on the FDL mold. The chips were not up to our standards so we are not going to offer it to the public. But we are going to put in the no mold which is an 1 1/16" which would be good for a photo quality image. Let me know if you are still interested.

Cathy

So just a bit of info for all.

imthatguy · #2 (**permalink**) 07-10-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 99%evil

So I'm thinking of a new solid tourney set, checked mold samples and liked the fleur de lis for a possible set. I e-mailed Cathy at PCOL about it, I mentioned the smooth large inlay might be a good medium for a photo-quality inlay, that's why the comment...

So just a bit of info for all.

That's interesting news. I have to say that the FDL's I have look great and the QC was very good. I'm puzzled.

whataboutj · #3 (**permalink**) 07-10-2007, 10:38 AM

THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!! I am paitiently waiting for the avalons to arrive so I could see the FDL in person. I was planning on going with it for my custom clays

I hope this is just another "Hicup" similar to the rounders replicas and they will offer it as an option (at least for CT'rs)

99%evil · #4 (**permalink**) 07-10-2007, 10:46 AM

Cathy knows I'm a CT'er...I was really looking forward to the FDL mold after seeing Mathew's samples. Perfect for a solid set and a nice big inlay for a full color inlay.....

I can say, I don't think I'd like the no mold...

ink_junkie · #5 (**permalink**) 07-10-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by imthatguy

That's interesting news. I have to say that the FDL's I have look great and the QC was very good. I'm puzzled.

My guess would be that it took a lot more chips to get the number of customer-ready (read high-quality) chips using the FDL mold than it does with say the HH or A mold. I think this was an issue with the roman mold as well. For example (random numbers here, I don't have any hard facts, just guessing), to get a 1,000 chip order for a customer, it might take ASM pressing 1100 chips to get 1000 chips that they consider good quality and ready for the customer.

With the FDL mold, it might take 1300 chips pressed to get 1000 customer-quality chips. In both cases the customer is getting 1000 top-notch, high-quality chips (I'd expect nothing less from ASM), but the QC rate on one chip mold is much worse than on the other mold, and therefore much more expensive for ASM to produce.

99%evil · #6 (**permalink**) 07-10-2007, 12:57 PM

Two e-mails in one day from PCOL...a little damage control? Not sure...but if I can get the FDL I'm happy.

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HI Chris

I was just realized that I gave you the wrong information. There is no problem with the FDL mold we are just moving on to other molds. And it maybe available later on.

Sorry for the confusion. This was my mistake

Cathy

imthatguy · #7 (**permalink**) 07-10-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 99%evil

Two e-mails in one day from PCOL...a little damage control? Not sure...but if I can get the FDL I'm happy.

Heh, makes me wonder what mold isn't good enough anymore. Probably Roman...

links_slayer · #8 (**permalink**) 07-10-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by imthatguy

Heh, makes me wonder what mold isn't good enough anymore. Probably Roman...

I just received 570 customs on the roman mold and found zero spinners. BTW, I friggin' love 'em.

BigKyle · #9 (**permalink**) 07-10-2007, 11:52 PM

A quick glance at their website reveals an absence of the Cards & Dice mold from currently available selections. It is a shame because I thought that mold was really cool given the right style of inlay.

michael000 · #10 (**permalink**) 07-11-2007, 10:12 AM

By "no mold" i'm assuming that this is a mold with design on it right? If it is i'm all over it once it's public, been waiting for ASM to offer an oversized type inlay, the fact that it'd be on a blank is perfect for me since i won't have to match the mold anymore.