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Old 03-14-2007, 06:29 PM
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Chipco vs. Sun Fly

Please give me suggestions on whether i should go with chipco or sun fly. Pros and cons of each would be nice. Thanks!
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Re: Chipco vs. Sun Fly

Welcome to the site. The best advice ever given is to get samples before you buy. Just get a few Chipco (you can get them here if you didn't already know: www.holdempokerchips.com) and then a few sun fly (I am not 100% sure where to get those) and then handle them side by side. Its the only way to ensure you get what you want. Look at them, handle them, listen to them, stack them, and then decide.

Personal preference is too variable so a do it yourself side by side is the best bet.

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Re: Chipco vs. Sun Fly

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Please give me suggestions on whether i should go with chipco or sun fly. Pros and cons of each would be nice. Thanks!
Here's our take- from someone who is arguably a contender with them--
We just finished an in depth analysis of chipcos and our ceramics--
Here's what we found
1-60- 70 per cent of chipco samples reviewed - the print was slightly crisper then ours.
2- 30-40 per cent we at least match their print quality. Alot has to do with artwork.
For the samples we printed which we had their artwork- I give chipco a SLIGHT- VERY SLIGHT- advantage ( this is based using a 10x loop for comparison)
3- The white ring they use causes many more off centered printed chips.
No getting around this- its hit and miss with them. Sometimes theyre on the money- sometimes it sticks out like a sore thumb
4- Their blanks feel different- their texture or surface is a finer then Sunfly blanks- not that we think it's better- its just different
5- Sunfly blanks on a random sampling per 200 chips will yield much fewer spinners
6- Text on edge- bout the same- our variance and Sunflys is about the same
( based on tenths of MM runout from dead centerline of the text on edge
7- cost. Sunfly is alot less then Chipco. While Chipco has moved somewhat on their pricing they still lag China....and many US companies. This is to be expected on any US produced product however we would expect quality to match price- I dont feel this is the case- this is MY opinion
8- Customer Service- hard to say- I havnt heard any bad things about their customer service. Not sure where they stand on alot of off centered orders weve seen- have to wait for someon on here who got some off centered images to comment
But if they DO replace off-centered images with good ones- it tells me it COULD have been done in the beginning so I would thing QC may be th shortcoming

My two cents from someone who does this for a living

Tried to be as unbiased as I could
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Welcome stalee!
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Re: Chipco vs. Sun Fly

Thanks guys. Any suggestions as who to go to for the Sun Fly's?
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Re: Chipco vs. Sun Fly

You will hear this often, never forget it. Get samples. There are several in the marketplace. You can submit custom orders to Palm Imports via thechiplab.com or get samples by contacting Joe directly. Mr. Chips uses Sunfly. Nevada Jacks uses Sunfly for NEW orders. Their old designs like the skulls use their old heavily textured mold. BR Pro has merged with Palm Imports and now uses Sunfly. Don't forget about ABC either. Gene do some great work. I'll try to dig up some threads for thought out of my subscriptions that may or may not make deciding easier.


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Thanks guys. Any suggestions as who to go to for the Sun Fly's?
just send an email to us and we will reply with your cost and how to order samples.
You can also send the artwork and when we do prototyping ( Usually 2 days a week) we can run a sample of your artwork to see if there's going to be any problems surfacing
We will send you a scan so you can see your artwork on the chip for corrections/comments
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Re: Chipco vs. Sun Fly

I really like the possibilities of Sunfly's chips. Alligned edges, less expensive, etc.

However, in handling, I just think that Chipcos have a better feel to them. I think this is mostly due to the edges and the smooth transition from face to edge, but when I have a stack of Sunflys and a stack of chipcos sitting next to eachother (which I had last week), the Chipcos just feel nicer.

Get some samples as ymmv.
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I really like the possibilities of Sunfly's chips. Alligned edges, less expensive, etc.

However, in handling, I just think that Chipcos have a better feel to them. I think this is mostly due to the edges and the smooth transition from face to edge, but when I have a stack of Sunflys and a stack of chipcos sitting next to eachother (which I had last week), the Chipcos just feel nicer.

Get some samples as ymmv.
They have a more refined texture- not smooth not textured- hard to explain-
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I really like the possibilities of Sunfly's chips. Alligned edges, less expensive, etc.

However, in handling, I just think that Chipcos have a better feel to them. I think this is mostly due to the edges and the smooth transition from face to edge, but when I have a stack of Sunflys and a stack of chipcos sitting next to eachother (which I had last week), the Chipcos just feel nicer.

Get some samples as ymmv.
I'm looking forward to the 43mm chips. The textured ones do have a bit of an edge on one shoulder. That is why I like the smooth Sunflys. They are more square than Chipco, but not sharp. They look better in stacks than Chipcos IMO. Chipcos are so rounded they look old and worn in stacks.
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