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Old 02-12-2007, 06:29 PM
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Explain it to me like I'm 5: BCC vs. ASM

BCC
- Less expensive
- More edge spot patterns
- More colors
- Less Lead Time

ASM
- More mold designs


what am i missing from the comparison that's objective?

thx from a n00b.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:32 PM
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Re: Explain it to me like I'm 5: BCC vs. ASM

It's ultimately subjective, but I prefer the feel of BCC to that of ASM
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:37 PM
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It's ultimately subjective, but I prefer the feel of BCC to that of ASM
i have a sample set of the samurais...can i expect the feel of a custom BCC to be the same (if i ask for vegas weight)? thx.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:39 PM
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Re: Explain it to me like I'm 5: BCC vs. ASM

Sorry, can't answer this. The only BCCs I have are in any quantity are the shell/flame mold. BCC customs for home use are (I think) restricted to this mold.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:55 PM
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Re: Explain it to me like I'm 5: BCC vs. ASM

When you say BCC are less expensive it depends what you're doing. Remember ASM gives you free art support (as well as options of alternate obverse art at no extra charge). BCC has more spots but I might say ASM does a better job with what they offer. Also the lead time for BCC is not seeming as quick as advertised.

I think the quantitative things are pretty close between the two, but there's much room on some of the subjective. The chips feel and sound different.

You're going to have to do some heavy lifting here and check out the old threads about custom jobs, though at this point there are very many BCC jobs to compare.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: Explain it to me like I'm 5: BCC vs. ASM

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My daddy can beat up your daddy!
No, my daddy can beat up your daddy!

It's been a while since I was five, but I am guessing something like that.
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Re: Explain it to me like I'm 5: BCC vs. ASM

My two cents, you absolutely can't beat ASM for customer service. Jim, Glenda, Cathy, and Sandy go out of their way to make sure you get exactly what you want. I haven't seen this type of feedback for BCC.
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When you say BCC are less expensive it depends what you're doing. Remember ASM gives you free art support (as well as options of alternate obverse art at no extra charge). BCC has more spots but I might say ASM does a better job with what they offer. Also the lead time for BCC is not seeming as quick as advertised.

I think the quantitative things are pretty close between the two, but there's much room on some of the subjective. The chips feel and sound different.

You're going to have to do some heavy lifting here and check out the old threads about custom jobs, though at this point there are very many BCC jobs to compare.
I'm basing my pricing on:
ASM: $1.45 x 500 + free art = $725
BCC: $0.85 x 500 + $150 art = $575

I'm holding a few BCC (samurais) and a few sample ASMs, and to me, the difference is negligable.

I've lifted my nuts off, and this thread seems the most comprehensive and recent: http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/custom...cc+mold+design

Really torn...hate the flames...love the 3U edge spot...dig the H mold...don't want to wait 6 months...
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My two cents, you absolutely can't beat ASM for customer service. Jim, Glenda, Cathy, and Sandy go out of their way to make sure you get exactly what you want. I haven't seen this type of feedback for BCC.
I agree with that...

ASM rocks as long as you dont mind waiting for a pretty long time
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Re: Explain it to me like I'm 5: BCC vs. ASM

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BCC: $0.85 x 500 + $150 art = $575
Does BC charge one flat art fee or is there an art fee for each denom? I don't actually know, but I thought it was the latter.
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