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Hi-Denom US Notes Plaques/Cheques - Labor of Love, or Fool's Errand?

OK, I've been mulling this about in my addled brain and it won't go away, so here goes .

Has anyone else ever thought about US Currency "tribute" type plaques or wide-graphic cheques (chips) for the high-denomination amounts that are no longer in circulation? Government regulations on reproductions notwithstanding, I would think that they could end up being a nice set of plaques for high stakes or late tourney stages.

Of course, without seeing mock-ups (and even after seeing them), maybe the question will turn into "why bother"? Does anything think these would ever garner enough interest to inspire a group buy? Am I obsessing about a useless endeavor? Please, someone talk me out of wasting precious chip-ogling time by starting down this road.

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Re: Hi-Denom US Notes Plaques/Cheques - Labor of Love, or Fool's Errand?

I think, and I could be wrong, but I think I have seen something like this before. Need to think about it a bit.
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Re: Hi-Denom US Notes Plaques/Cheques - Labor of Love, or Fool's Errand?

My cousin actually had an idea similar to this but got really scared after watching a 2-hour counterfeiting show on Discovery. HA!
I really like the idea and think it would look sweet.
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Re: Hi-Denom US Notes Plaques/Cheques - Labor of Love, or Fool's Errand?

Good Idea!! Does abc or Palm have the set up for Plaques?
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Re: Hi-Denom US Notes Plaques/Cheques - Labor of Love, or Fool's Errand?

I'll have to look for the thread again - I believe it was related to using fake cash bundles in home games - but one of the major red flag points of the Treasury Dept. was that the fake money reproductions were of the exact same dimensions (length, width) as real currency.

Interestingly enough, I learned that although the high denominations are no longer in circulation banks will still sell them at face value (except for the 100k, and maybe the 10k) if they have them (strange, since they are often worth significantly more than face value to collectors). Technically, that means they are still valid as currency, and any reproductions would have to have significant differences from the real thing.

All that said, since the dimensions of plaques and cheques are so radically different from the actual Federal Reserve Notes, I would not think that counterfitting (sp?) laws would be an issue. Time to break out the Federal rulebook. Anyone have more info?

I don't know who the major players are for custom plaques, anyone with ideas, please chime in. I presume these would need to be custom ceramics of some type; I don't even know if double-sided printing is allowed for plaques.

You guys are not helping me to drop this idea..... I sense many long nights ahead with my photo editing programs...

FYI, I anticipate dimensions close to the last attachment in the OP - of the back of the $5k bill "smushed" together.
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Re: Hi-Denom US Notes Plaques/Cheques - Labor of Love, or Fool's Errand?

To my knowledge, the only vendor for custom ceramic plaques is: holdempokerchips.com

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I don't know who the major players are for custom plaques, anyone with ideas, please chime in. I presume these would need to be custom ceramics of some type;
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Re: Hi-Denom US Notes Plaques/Cheques - Labor of Love, or Fool's Errand?

Actually you can't get anything larger than a $100 note from the banks. As I understand it, they have to turn them into the fed if they get anything larger (e.g. $500 and up) Also from what I remember, anything bigger than the $1K note was not in general circulation and was used between banks or something.

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I'll have to look for the thread again - I believe it was related to using fake cash bundles in home games - but one of the major red flag points of the Treasury Dept. was that the fake money reproductions were of the exact same dimensions (length, width) as real currency.

Interestingly enough, I learned that although the high denominations are no longer in circulation banks will still sell them at face value (except for the 100k, and maybe the 10k) if they have them (strange, since they are often worth significantly more than face value to collectors). Technically, that means they are still valid as currency, and any reproductions would have to have significant differences from the real thing.

All that said, since the dimensions of plaques and cheques are so radically different from the actual Federal Reserve Notes, I would not think that counterfitting (sp?) laws would be an issue. Time to break out the Federal rulebook. Anyone have more info?

I don't know who the major players are for custom plaques, anyone with ideas, please chime in. I presume these would need to be custom ceramics of some type; I don't even know if double-sided printing is allowed for plaques.

You guys are not helping me to drop this idea..... I sense many long nights ahead with my photo editing programs...

FYI, I anticipate dimensions close to the last attachment in the OP - of the back of the $5k bill "smushed" together.
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Re: Hi-Denom US Notes Plaques/Cheques - Labor of Love, or Fool's Errand?

What about a characture of a high denomination note that incorporated identifable parts of lets say a 5000$ note but totally left out the central picture. A plaque would have the look of high currency but could never be interpreted as counterfeit. Added to that it would be the wrong size on either sied of a porcelin plaque.
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Re: Hi-Denom US Notes Plaques/Cheques - Labor of Love, or Fool's Errand?

"Printed reproductions, including photographs of paper currency, checks, bonds, postage stamps, revenue stamps, and securities of the United States and foreign governments are violations of Title 18, Section 474 of the United States Code. Violations are punishable by fines of up to $5,000, or 15 years imprisonment, or both. "
~from the Federal Bureau of Engraving and Printing

I'm not sure though if putting the images on a plaque would be considered a printed reproduction of paper currency.
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Re: Hi-Denom US Notes Plaques/Cheques - Labor of Love, or Fool's Errand?

Based on what I see on the custom plaque guidelines from holdempokerchips.com, I already foresee some major issues.

"All artwork should be submitted in the following format: Adobe Illustrator (CS or earlier)

Please note the following requirements for submitting artwork:
• CMYK colors are preferred (Pantone colors will not be accurately reproduced)
• Any type should be converted to outlines or the necessary fonts (PC only) included with your files
• Bitmap images should be in CMYK format and at least 300ppi for best results.
• All bitmap images should be placed and included separately with your submission
• Unused/hidden layers should be deleted"

Seeing as the entire work would be heavily contorted bitmaps from image scans (at least that's what I think today), would a 100% bitmap artwork image even be allowed?
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