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Old 04-01-2006, 11:16 AM
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"Henry's" ASM Inlay : advice needed.

Dear Chiptalkers,

I have decided to go for 4 chip 414 spots ASM custom set. My initial idea has received some positive feedback on this forum :

http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/custom...m-customs.html

So I have downloaded the trial version of Illustrator and I am now working on my inlay. Here is the first draft.






Please tell me what I can do to make it better. One of the problems is to make the 500 denom stand out and match the DG Yellow at the same time... Also the design is rather plain, so maybe things like a date and place could be added.
I would like this thread to focus on the design, not the chip choices.
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Re: "Henry's" ASM Inlay : advice needed.

If you're in the order process already the first thing i'd do is email the artist at ASM and ask whether or not the house is even going to print out right. It's pretty detailed and would cover less than about half an inch, it'd be a shame if it came up a blurred mess. I'd definitely check on that first since it's the centerpiece of your chip's theme.
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Re: "Henry's" ASM Inlay : advice needed.

Can you give us some idea of what the current design is all about? Why the house?

I don't like the last chip with the "suits" on the inlay....I don't think it adds anything to the set.
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Re: "Henry's" ASM Inlay : advice needed.

I'm assuming that the crosshairs are not part of the final design...
The yellow denom doesn't stand out well. How about just making all the denoms red?
You might try changing the colors of the shutters to match the chip or edgespot colors on each denom.
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Re: "Henry's" ASM Inlay : advice needed.

Thanks for the feedback.

@ Michael: Before submitting the design to ASM I would like it to be sort of validated, so I thought since there are a couple of experienced people on this forum I would check what you guys think before actually sending the draft to ASM. I’m not in a hurry, since I want my order placed in one month. I want to be sure about as many things as possible before I get things fine-tune with ASM’s artist.
About the design of the house itself I probably need something with less details. I’ve used the architect’s elevation as a starting point and have tried to make the design as close to the original, but things are not set in stone - though the house is .

@ Noel: The house is not really a concept, it's the façade of the house we've just bought and where we intend to spend at least a decade or two. So I figured it would be nice for the kids when they're older to have a souvenir in the form of the poker chip set. The house was built in 1905, we bought it in 2005 and will be moving in at the end of this year.
The orange chip was originally going to be a T2000 but I was advised to make it non-denom to add flexibility to the set. I put the suits instead of the denom but it could feature anything else. Just didn't have any better idea. There probably is something better to do. Suggestions?
On a sidenote I don’t want to use any currency, since I’m in the Euro zone and anyway this is more meant to be a tourney set.

@ Captn Lego: indeed the crosshairs are there only temporarily to help me center the elements of the design.
You're right about the yellow denom. I need either to change it's color or find a better way to outline it - obviously the black shadow is not sufficient. I do want the chip design to echo the edge spots though, and I’ve already used the asm-blue for the roof and the DG-yellow for the shutters. The idea of changing the color of the shutters on each chip is a good one, though I need to know whether the shutters are actually even going to appear on the design in the first place.

And since you’re the breakdown guru here, can you tell me what you think of the following that Wijwij suggested:
100 x ncv (orange chip, to be used either for small blind or higher denoms like 1000, 2000 or 2500)
160 x 25T
160 x 100T
80 x 500T

Keep the comments coming please.
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Re: "Henry's" ASM Inlay : advice needed.

As far as breakdown, here is a good tourney breakdown
12 T25 chips = T300
12 T100 chips = T1,200
7 T500 chips = T3,500
31 total chips worth T5,000

120 green, 150 black, 100 purple = 370 for a single-table tourney
Add 130 NCV for 26 rebuys @ 1,000 per chip
Also should be enough chips for a cash game

As for the chips themselves, the 414 and 314 and 412 all cost the same (CMIIAW) so I would love to see you mix it up a bit, maybe with a green 314 chip, black 414, purple 314, orange 414. Just a bit more variety. That is what makes this opportunity so special is the casino-style edgespot variety. The house is quite detailed, so maybe you could go a little more basic with the windows, colors, etc. I do like the theme and the overall design, however.
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Here are my chips for example of edgespot progression

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Re: "Henry's" ASM Inlay : advice needed.

I must admit a 314-414-3d41-4d14 is very pretty. I like your set a lot, Kyle.
Damn, now I'm in doubt with my full 414!
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Re: "Henry's" ASM Inlay : advice needed.

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Please tell me what I can do to make it better. One of the problems is to make the 500 denom stand out and match the DG Yellow at the same time.
You could increase the denomination font size a little, and use a heavier outline or shadow (black).
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Re: "Henry's" ASM Inlay : advice needed.

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I must admit a 314-414-3d41-4d14 is very pretty. I like your set a lot, Kyle.
Damn, now I'm in doubt with my full 414!
GOOD! That's what everyone is trying to urge you to do....the minor cost difference is only minor by comparison to the initial order baseline price.

As for the crosshairs on the inlay to center the chip, I actually thought that was really cool....You are using an architectural rendering and those crosshairs are appropriate in that instance....But that's because I'm an architect and things like that look cool to me. So I don't know for sure if it would really help the chip or hurt it.

As for you order to ASM, you are aware that you have until April 15 for the 3d14, 4d14 and 614 edge spots if you should add those to your designs right????
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