[gman1973]

Hey all this is my first attempt at a mock up. Tell me what you think.

Thanks

[99%evil]

Nice start, I think you'll find the denom font needs to be increased. When the chip is actual size the denoms will be difficult to read. The jester may need to be made a little larger as well. Other than that, looks good to me.

[Wylecoyo]

They look very good for your first attempt. It looks to me as if the "Private Poker Room" across the bottom is done in a larger font than the rest of the inlay - you would probably be able to make the denomination and graphic a tad bit bigger if you reduced the size to match "The Basement" around the top edge. It looks great the way it is, but you may even want to consider taking the "Private Poker Room" out altogether so you could further increase the size of the denomination and graphic.

I don't see any real need to change anything at all because I really do like it the way it is; however, I wanted to give you some options to consider.

[gman1973]

Thanks for the suggestions.

I have made a couple cahnges . Is it getting Better or Worse?

Thanks

[Apotome]

Here are some thoughts. They are in no particular order and based solely on my thoughts. Not meant to be negative in any way, just to provide some possible suggestions. Keeping in mind that this is already a really good first attempt. Much better than my first attempt.

- What about dropping the text "The Basement" altogether? Or is this a key part of the name for your private card room? The reason I ask is that you've also got "L & G's" further down. That suggests (at least by looking at it) that it's "L & G's Private Card Room". If dropping "The Basement" is possible, it gives you some room to move other things around.

- If "L & G's" were moved to the top (replacing The Basement) you could then move the denom into the spot where the initials currently sit. That would allow the denom to not be muddied by sitting over top the jester. It would in turn allow the jester to be more visible.

- What about adding a drop shadow to the denom? I'm a big fan of drop shadows.

- I really like the way you've arranged the suits on the right. Very classy.

- I really like your jester character. Nicely colorful, but not too busy.

All in all, a really great start. I hope we'll get to see what they look like when finished!

All the best,
Allan B.

[OnTheButton]

Originally Posted by gman1973

Thanks for the suggestions.

I have made a couple cahnges . Is it getting Better or Worse?

Thanks

Let's see if I can help with some basics to design.

I think your first design was cleaner, but I'll base my suggestions on the latest revision.

First off, the design is too busy. Too many things going on the be read clearly and quickly.

My suggestions are as such to start.

1. Remove the card suits from the right hand side and put the denomination (the red $25) there. Those suits look like they were stuck there to fill in space. Use that space to display the denomination.

2. Remove the small $25 from the left side all together. It doesn't need to be there, and at first I thought it was "S25" some kind of secret code... Move the "L&G's a bit to the left to even out the open space a bit.

3. Make the joker (who is cool looking) about 20% smaller so that he does not compete with the text around the edge so much. Give him a little breating room.

4. I don't know how well you can work with fonts, but I might suggest a "condensed" style of font and a point or two larger. By condensing a font you can make it a bit larger but it won't "expand" and be longer around the outside.

5. Also if you are considering to do these as ASM chips, reduce the whole thing about 90% inside the white lable. Give yourself some room for shifting during printing with a little more margin outside of the graphics.

Also, if this is a Photoshop layered file, feel free to PM me and I will send you my e-mail address, you can mail it to me and I will fool around with it if you like. I think all you need is a little "priority of elements" and you will like the whole chip much better overall.

[slappy sam]

Originally Posted by OnTheButton

2. Remove the small $25 from the left side all together. It doesn't need to be there, and at first I thought it was "S25" some kind of secret code...

I find that absolutely hilarious Ahahaha

I agree, I think your second attempt is a bit too busy. Though I have no experience with inlays, but I have done graphics for websites etc. The little red $25 and the suits should be removed and the joker possibly made smaller (like the above poster said). I find that the classy looking inlays are normally simple and uncluttered, yet elegant. I do like your joker though, looks nice. Good luck with your inlay.

Of course this is my opinion and its all up to your personal preference.

Edit: I think that something should be done with the red $25 that is overlapping the joker. I'm not sure of what exactly.

[PocketRocket]

I think there is way too much detail to be fit into a 3/4" circular area. You might want to try reducing the text to something like L&G's Basement on top and then just "Poker Room" on the bottom. Might also want to use all caps, or large/small caps, instead of upper/lower case. The "Basement" text should be the larger of the two text areas, with the "Poker Room" text being smaller, just as you might see the location text for a casino inlay. Remove the Suits, reduce the Joker/Jester image so that it does not conflict with the text and the denomination, and get rid of the denomination along the edge of the label (that's not in the printable area.) Other than that, the design and the image looks like it's got the makings of a real nice classical design for an inlay.

[gman1973]

OK based on the input, (Thank You all), I have made some changes are they worse or better?

Thanks again all.

[Strange]

Looks like the text is too small now.

A slightly more radical thought would be to only use the head of the Jester. I thik that it would work on its own, create a bit more balance in general and allow you to space out the textual elements more carefully.