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06-03-2005, 12:16 PM
|  | World Series Final Table | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Galt's Gultch Age: 94
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Chips: 2,183 | | | While you guys were in a cash game and finishing tuorney #5. I was playing a Sit N Go 27 person tourney, started about 10:30pm central.
Got to the final table and was about #4 in chips. We narrow down to 6 of us, and I get dealt AXs.
Flop comes down all 9JXs - and give me the Ace high flush. I checked, get raised and call.
4th comes down a 9x. I bet 3x BB and get called. Huh... guy's either overplaying or has a house.
River deals a 9. I bet 3x again which was probably stupid. Guy calls.
We turn over and he has 9J...
So I flop the nut flush; he flops two pair.
4th gives him a house.
The River gives him freakin' quads!
Talk about bad beat... although probably stupid on my part. I should have hit the breaks on 4th and folded to any bet I guess. I hate hindsight! | 
06-03-2005, 01:03 PM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, California
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Chips: 2,131 | | | If his bet was decent on the flop, alternatively you could have check-raised all-in on the flop and see if he would be willing to pay dearly to draw to his 4-outer against a flush. Of course, in hindsight, he may have called and you would have lost more, but "dat no limit, babee!" | 
06-03-2005, 01:11 PM
|  | Big Stack | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: the wonder of it all Age: 34
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Chips: 7,798 | | | You know what I say to that? RIIIIIGGGGEEED! | 
06-03-2005, 01:37 PM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chicagoland Age: 33
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Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey You know what I say to that? RIIIIIGGGGEEED! |
Too funny.
I like to say that in my home game too when I'm holding red aces and flop comes down something like 678s. This sh!t is rigged!!! | 
06-03-2005, 01:41 PM
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06-03-2005, 01:54 PM
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Chips: 29,466 | | | I'm wondering why he didn't raise on the river. What was he afraid of? Did he have the absolute nuts, or was there a str8-flush possible?
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06-03-2005, 02:50 PM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, California
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Chips: 2,131 | | | I'm assuming the "X" flop card was not a T, or you probably would have remembered it, as well as if it were an Q or K. So it would have needed to be a 7 or 8 to instill any fear of the str8 flush. If not either of those, then it is strange he didn't re-raise all-in on the river. Unless he was a newb or too excited about hitting quads, or trying to be kind. | 
06-03-2005, 02:51 PM
|  | In the Money | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Upstate NY
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Chips: 896 | | I'd go broke w/ quads to a 3 card strt flush on board. A 4 card, like 9,10,J,Qd, well.............I'd prob go broke there too  | 
06-03-2005, 03:57 PM
|  | Big Stack | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Kissimmee,Florida Age: 57
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Chips: 2,046 | | | three times the big blind, your inviting callers , make it tuff to call, ten times may have been enough to take pot. imho! | 
06-03-2005, 11:16 PM
|  | World Series Champ | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lakewood, CO Age: 37
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Chips: 1,861 | | | Wooderson did an excellent job of controlling the action on the turn. His 3xBB bet will make any hand that beats him FLAT CALL here unless the player is fairly sophisticated and is afraid of redraws (this guy wasn't, obviously). The bet on the river was pretty dumb but how much would you have called here, Wooderson? I would have had to pay off a 3xBB bet just in case the guy was making a post-oak bluff. I have no idea why the guy didn't at least minraise you there. If I had to guess I would say misclick, he was going for the minraise but accidentally clicked call instead.
Did you raise preflop? Did he? What was his bet size in relation to the pot on the flop? How many chips did each player have? Depending on these answers, you may have made a crucial mistake by not pushing on the flop and the hell with getting outdrawn. Since you didn't push on the flop I say you should have bet 1/2 the pot on the turn and seen what he did (he would have pushed, I imagine). Your 3xBB bet seems weak and any strong hand is just going to call you. You had no redraws (your best hand was already made) but did manage to control the action and get yourself a free card. Right move, wrong time.
Them's the breaks, I suppose.
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