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Old 09-04-2006, 09:47 PM
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Identifying and old chip

I'm backing into chip collecting it seems. I have a trade in the works that will net me some old chips - apparently NOT casino chips though.
How would one begin to research chips that have no mold markings and I suspect were made for home use?
Btw at least one seems to be red, white triangle in a white circle for a center can't tell much more from the pic.

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Re: Identifying and old chip

Youll get alot more help if you post pics or scans
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Old 09-04-2006, 10:04 PM
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Re: Identifying and old chip

The chip he mentioned is the red on the top row.
Assuming I get this to work that is....
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Re: Identifying and old chip

Those are crest and seal chips. You can check out Robert Eisenstadts website antiquegamblingchips.com
From my experience you cannot prove what casino they are from and even if you can it doesn't seem to affect their value unless that particular design was only used for that casino, these designs were used at lots of casinos both in the US and in other countries.
If you would like more of the crest and seal chips I have a wide variety.
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Re: Identifying and old chip

Sorry Roland, and although they very much look it, I don't think we can really call those "Crest & Seal" chips. C&S chips have a lacquer application that seals the entire surface of the chip.

These chips have no sealed surface and are referred to as inlaid, clay composition, generic wheel chips. Commonly used for roulette and are without denominations so that buy-in value can be flexible. They are plain-mold and likely made by the United States Playing Card Company between 1910 and 1950.

Individually, they typically retail between $3 and $5, but in quantity will be much less. It is possible that they were originally bought for home poker game use, but may have had a casino useage.

Although scans may belie the luster of a C&S chip, based on what I see, I believe these are inlaid chips, which can be confused with C&S chips.

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Re: Identifying and old chip

My mistake. Again Jim comes through with his knowledge.

I have about 1,000 or so of these that came from the Blue Chip Club casino in Aberdeen, UK.

Some of which have 20p stamped on them which means 20 pence. This was used for there lowest denomination at the time. And the chips were used at the roulette tables like Jim states.
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Re: Identifying and old chip

Thanks guys!
so what you seem to be saying is that 15 of these or similar and 2 cut cards is an Ok swap for 25 of my grey Faux Clays? Assuming good condition?
Did I mention this is my first attempt at collecting chips ( other than midway through a tournement that is )
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They arrived today, so I have "hands on" info now. Pics ( if desired ) as soon as I find out where my son hid the camera!
( He moved out and may have "borrowed" it);

The first thing noticed is they are shiny and SLICK!
I got 7 different designs - some duplicates - and the diameters seem to vary, not much but noticeably;
Some seem to have a die-cut inlay and others seem to be all of a piece. All seem to be on the range of good to very good condition to my untrained eye one has a small gouge but the rest show only very small scratches from handling - maiinly seen with angled light.

Jim do they sound like the "Wheel Checks"? I thought I saw at least a couple listed as C&S.... I'll make sure to get good close-ups.
Last thing is are they "tradeable" or just curios? I was hoping to do some swappin' and tradin' to get some samples of the better chips out there to save money ordering them.....

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Re: Identifying and old chip

Carl,

Close-ups in the macro mode may help. I'll look, as I'd rather have it right!

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Re: Identifying and old chip

I have a playable set of chips similar to these. I've found some on ebay in this auction that look like mine. The ones I have are almost all the clover design seen on the left in this auction's main picture, although there were a couple with the moon/star, fluer de lis, and other designs hidden in the set.

In the auction they're listed as " Lansky Casino Ponce de Leon" chips - I suspect this isn't true, but I'm also wondering where they came from and what they're worth. Are they USPCC chips? Or something else?
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